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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Into the bunker!

shuts a big vault door with "TOR" written on it

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The problem is if this gets adopted on a large enough scale not even Tor will save us, all the exit nodes will be subject to censorship. Tor only works because there are some countries which have totally free and open internet. Unless you're talking about moving completely to the darknet.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unless you're talking about moving completely to the darknet.

I really wish i2p would take off and people would seriously consider hosting stuff there.

Like why is Lemmy and most federated social media not on the dark web? It would make so much more sense and be much more resilient to censorship.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because with Lemmy's architecture darknet sites could not federate with clearnet sites as the end user's browser fetches content directly from the federated instances.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Because with Lemmy’s architecture darknet sites could not federate with clearnet sites as the end user’s browser fetches content directly from the federated instances.

Ehhh, that just seems like something someone hasn't fixed yet but easily could if built for that purpose. No one's taken a hammer to that nail yet.

A tunnel could exist on each server that relays to TOR and back to the instance, allowing it to federate with .onion instances under an alias or something. TOR is extremely flexible with tunneling and being really specific with what you let in and from where. I could see how it could be tailored to the purpose.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, but why not build it from the ground up to support the dark web?

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

I never said you couldn't, just that it doesn't work that way now

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unless you’re talking about moving completely to the darknet.

There are XMPP servers hosted on .onion.

I see no reason why a lemmy instance, or more, couldn't also be hosted there.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

With XMPP all messages are relayed through your server of choice

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