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[โ€“] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Makes me feel hopeless, like all paths lead to totalitarianism.

all paths can lead to totalitarianism.

depend on what flavor you want though. I'm partial to leftist totalitarian rule, because I would rather everyone be accepted than only "them" be accepted.

[โ€“] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I think I'd rather let assholes be assholes than to let governments have the power to legislate undesirable behaviour (beyond basic violence and shit).

Just can't see it creating a dignifying world no matter how good your intentions and planning are.

[โ€“] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

you're not wrong, but how can we combat conservative fascism unless we use socialist fascism?

unless we use the anarchist method of chaos and violence until unity, but that could take decades and billions of lives.

[โ€“] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Progressivism cannot be authoritarian in my head, that's something else I'm not willing to be a part of.

[โ€“] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine a society that imprisons citizens because they refuse to serve homosexuals, or uses derogatory terms towards people of color.

Imagine a society that forcibly taxes the wealthy to ensure the poorest can be cared for.

Imagine a society that takes over a company because they are mistreating workers.

that's progressive authoritarianism, that's socialism.

I would much rather prefer it to the current brand of fascism growing in the US today.

[โ€“] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imprisoning people for bigotry sounds kinda horrid. Committee of decrepit old farts deciding which slur puts you away for how many years? no thank you

The rest is normal imo, most people would not call taxes and labor rights authoritarian.

[โ€“] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

the wealthy did, that's how we got here.

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