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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Carney is ALREADY a conservative. I think Poilievre has hit his ceiling, and will rise no further. I think Carney is going to be our big problem as progressives for the foreseeable future, and I think he has the potential to be a lot more effective in reshaping Canada than PP ever could. PP is interested in silly social nonsense and self-aggrandization, while Carney has a hard on to further amplify the global corporate hegemony.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Don't discount PP's abilities. He barely lost to Carney and he might survive to lead in another election. Carney's honeymoon is already showing signs of fading. The housing situation is likely getting worse for years to come. Grocery prices won't be going down. So Carney's in for being the face of worsening material conditions. Surviving that on propaganda alone would be difficult. The next election could very well be between PP and whoever's on the NDP side.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've been watching PP with horror and dread since Garth Turner was a cabinet minister. I think PP can't beat Carney because Carney has no moral integrity and will quite happily give the right whatever they would have wanted from PP, dressed up in some slick faux compassionate PR. Honestly, I don't see a huge difference.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Exactly, people have been swooning over Carney’s smooth talking lies treating him like he’s our “knight in shining armour”

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

He definitely won’t vote for proportional representation. He will just ignore the issue avoiding Justin’s public relations blunder.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

he has the potential to be a lot more effective in reshaping Canada than PP ever could

This is conjecture at best. Assuming anyone can do accidentally what the CPC do purposefully is a bit of a reach.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

I mean obviously it's conjecture, I'm not sure why you are highlighting that. I'm also not sure we're even talking about the same thing, re: "what the CPC do purposefully". I also did not suggest an accident. Carney is as blue as Liberals come.