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I think most people agree with this idea. There are two basic problems preventing it.
Basically you have to make people do inconvenience things. You can't ask.
For example single-use shopping bags. Everyone understands why they are a problem. Every store sells a reusable alternative. Recyclable paper bags have always been an option. But unless it's regulated, people continue using disposable single use plastic shopping bags.
Imagine going through construction debris trying to separate plaster, wood-lathing wire-lathing, screws, and insulation into separate piles for disposal.
Picture the average grandma disassembling a sump pump to make sure plastic rubber Teflon and metal materials all end up in separate recyclable piles.
And this is why bags are no longer free where i live and cost up to 40c a piece. People quickly stopped using them haha
The inconvenience of the price became larger than always having a reusable bag in the car or bike hehe
We banned them here too. I always forget my reusable bags and toss a loose assortment of goods in my trunk to tumble around.
Oh, i get one of the cardboard boxes the shops let you take then haha. That and i have 3, reusable bags in the car and a collapsable plastic box to put my shoppings into xD
I wish we could pay for them. nope, gotta buy more expensive actual garbage bags that use far far more material
I just need, like, four or five plastic shopping bags a month. that would cover my needs.
instead I'm shovelling dog shit into bread bags that don't quite have a big enough opening
No where does it say that consumers should be required to do these things. Just that if the only end of life possibility for a product is the land fill, then we should restrict it's manufacturing. Obviously there would need to be exceptions for things like medical needs or accessibility accomodations.
So we don't want to achieve the recycling, repair, and re-use, we just want to know it's theoretically possible?
No where did I say that, you obtuse troll.
Ad hominem aside... There's a reason we want these things to fall into one of these categories. Presumably it's so that we can actually recycle reuse or compost end of life products.
So, either we want that sump pump disassembled into component level disposal categories so that we can achieve this goal, or we make peace with a disposal plan that involves chucking this in the trash as a fully assembled good that will almost certainly be cost and time prohibitive to dispose of in any other way than tossing it into a landfill.
I'm saying this is a problem and you're saying it's not. You're not identifying a solution to that problem you just name calling... And I'm the troll?