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Docker or Proxmox? Something else entirely? (piefed.social)

submitted 11 months ago by JeanValjean@piefed.social to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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New server has been acquired. Debian 13 has been installed.

GS308EP switches have been acquired and installed.

Now, I'm working to migrate to the new machine. 3 1/2 years ago when I started futzing with Docker, I sorta followed guides and guessed, abused it trying to make it do things it wasn't designed for, and flipped switches I likely shouldn't have flipped, so the set up is more than a little shabby.

As a result, I'll likely end more redeploying than migrating the containers.

So rather than go forward with Docker blindly, I want to reassess whether I shouldn't look into Proxmox, LXC, or Podman instead of Docker, or maybe something else entirely?

Work is just about done dumping ESX for Nutanix, but both of those seem overkill for my needs.

Of course the forums for any of the solutions make their own out to be the best thing since sliced bread and the others useless, so I'm hoping to get a more nuanced answer here.

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[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i just came into containerization recently and skipped Docker completely and went straight to podman. it's been fantastic and integrates well with systemd. i would recommend anyone new to do the same.

since you're not new, and are looking for something different, i would say do podman instead of docker.

[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

I concur. Podman is superior in my opinion. It’s more secure by default (rootless containers) and can do pretty much everything docker can do naively (you can literally alias docker to podman in your shell and it will work)

It’s not as easy to find info on some of the systemd specific stuff (Quadlets), but once you figure that out, it’s pretty amazing.

I ended up making up my own scripts to allow me to create new system users, pre-loaded with aliases and shortcut functions to make my life easier ( automatic quadlet container file generation, pre-set network rules, etc), but it is not required.

All the info is there, but starting out it can be a bit overwhelming.

My containers are pretty much self sufficient now. I just intervene when something needs major updating or config changes