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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Our core value isn't Car, it's "individual freedom, especially at the cost or inconvenience of others". It just so happens that Car aligns pretty well with that

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So interesting to me that Americans think being dependent on a car is "freedom". Individual freedom should be the freedom to get to where you need to go with viable options to walk, bike, train, bus, tram, or drive.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

I think you're focusing too much on the "individual freedom" bit and missing the "at the cost or inconvenience of others" bit

[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We rarely have other viable options. Long before most of us were born, the U.S. built an infrastructure centered around cars, sidelining other forms of transportation.

In America, owning a car is often the key to freedom of movement. So it's no surprise people equate cars with freedom. Getting people to see how car dependency actually limits our freedom is like trying to wake someone from the Matrix.

To be fair the mindset that a car means freedom is also quite common in Germany too. Especially in the countryside (tbf its often required if you dont want waste a lot of time due to shitty public transportation)

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No one can make a profit on people walking, so I dont understand how your point makes any sense.

edit: oh wait! footware and sports drink companies. OK, well, you've made some compelling points here. And we use small handed children to in America to make these shoes and sports drinks, right?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, you can’t drive like a dangerous asshole on your way to park your full size truck based SUV across two handicap spots if you don’t have a car in the first place!