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[–] TheCleric@lemmy.org 86 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just fyi, like 99% of food delivery via gig workers in nyc is done via e-bike

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Even if done in a car in areas where a e-bike isn't really feasible, they usually take several orders at at time. I think 1 car picking up and delivering 3 orders is probably slightly more efficient than each person driving to the restaurant.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It should be way more efficient considering they could do a pickup from a restaurant near their last delivery. Play the traveling salesman game decently and you'll easily beat individuals driving themselves many times over. The driver might also do a pickup job from a restaurant they like and decide to get their own food at the same time.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they usually take several orders at at time

I'd like to see some stats on this. When I see uber eats workers pick up at McDonald’s the orders seem to be singular.

But my anecdotal experience is not usable data.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Sometimes you will get lucky and get a couple of orders from the same restaurant, but it's usually stop at 2 or 3 different restaurants in the same area, then deliver. Occasionally I would take a single order if the money was good, but usually if I wasn't taking 3 orders or more at once I wasn't making enough money for it to be worth it.

It may have changed now, I fortunately got out of doing it a couple of yeas ago. It's stressful and hard on your vehicle, and the companies you work for are shit. I'm not defending the gig companies as they are now, but in theory having one person deliver to multiple people isn't a bad idea.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

slightly more efficient that each person driving to the restaurant

Of course. But the correct solution here doesn't require any individuals driving.

[–] enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are you implying a solution to delivery? Or that no one should eat (in or out) at restaurants?

[–] noli@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does that fix food delivery? Are you only supposed to order from the restaurant around the corner?

[–] noli@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably my personal bias, I have 5 different places I could get food from within 15 minutes walking. Closer to 20 when taking a bike.

When I visited the US I was gobsmacked by literally everything being a 30min walk at least, even in more densely populated areas

[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have 5 different places I could get food from within 15 minutes walking.

Right, not exactly a lot of variation. It only really becomes viable once you add the bike back in.

So while a walk-able city is a great idea in general, it does nothing for this particular issue.

[–] noli@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

5 places is plenty variation if you cook at home most days. And if you're eating out you can easily walk a lot more as you don't need to worry about food getting cold

[–] remon@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago

Right. That's a no on both ifs though.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It’s quite telling that they didn’t think of walking or cycling

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

In most places I've lived for the past 40 years, I could just walk to the store. I have now four to choose from, all within 10 minutes of walking, and the city center is about an hour away. Ther are also bicycles.

By having groceries, you can make food yourself, at home. You can do this many times, for each time you actually have to get groceries.

As for eating at a restaurant, collective transport ranges from obvious to absolutely necessary, depending on the population density. When my family go out to eat, it's a lot more convenient to hop on a bus or tram to the city center. It takes half the time, if you consider parking, it's cheaper, and you can have a drink or two as well. You also get to engage with each other, during transit.

In the less car-retarded world, food delivery is also easier to do with non-car methods.

In any case, and because I know the kind of responses people reply with... Please don't. I just gave you some examples and a different perspective. Americans are culturally dumb as shit when it comes to considering the obviously better alternatives, in so many different aspects, and I don't really care all that much.

[–] enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

Thanks for the thought out answer!