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Oh what a suprise you're a reddit power user, I am shocked, shocked I say, to find such a person being a fascist apologist via dubious rhetorical manipulation!
Yeah, many situations have nuance.
I have considered, and indeed, first hand experienced the 'nuance' that you describe and now hint at, and find it hollow.
You are obviously an extremely privileged perma online person, who delights in being theoretically morally superior in all situations, not actually giving a fuck about the plain and obvious injustice of a situation.
Yes you truly have mastered the art of sanctimonious aping, bravo at being a completely insufferable ass.
You can't seriously be trying to deploy the 'you're doing black and white logic' tactic when... you yourself acknowledge that these people are into it, that they voluntarily engage in it, and also just utterly ignore that I've personally known many drug addicts, ex cons, who have ended up homeless, and actually did their damndest to get off drugs, to go straight/legit, to recover, that they walked the hard path because it was the right path.
Again, I can only hope that 'nuance' visits your doorstep and impacts your life personally, because you are obviously a disingenuous, solipsistic troll who can't learn anything until it hits them in face like a brick.
Kindly fuck off back to reddit, most of lemmy is really doing its best to be rid of people like you.
People like you are the reason I'm here, so the same in kind. I have to get going now, so rant away. Your lengthy diatribes just lend credence to my point, anyway. Only bullies try to overwhelm everyone else's perspectives with so many assumptions resulting in so much BS.
Aggrandizing yourself is not the flex you think it is. Your selective concern trolling is nothing but a push to divert the issue at hand to make yourself feel better, or more sinister, a part of a subtle propaganda machine to stop people from pushing back.
You should sit at the front lines amongst the ones being affected and we'll see how your statements stand up.
Again, another absolutist - at least you recognize some nuance.
I never said any of this was okay. I did recognize that there are likely some among them who are simply people trying to survive who saw an easy to get job that paid reasonably well & decided to put up with the crap in order to get the money they needed. They aren't likely educated enough to understand the full moral implications, and too pressured by life's demands to spend much time caring about them. Once they're in, I'm sure there's plenty of "team building" manipulation that helps keep them there.
I'm sure to you that makes them evil, but I think ignoring the fact they're human just propagates the hate and division. Like I said earlier, I'm sure they're not saints, but they may not be so far gone that respecting their humanity would be a waste of time. Some of them probably just needed support they weren't getting elsewhere. If you actually want to change their mind, you've first got to understand what got their mind there to begin with. Treating them as subhuman isn't going to get you very far. You can respect the person without respecting their job.
Ignore them. I've had more issues with dbzer0 users than from any other instance. They are clearly attacking you then when you try to defend yourself they try to use that against you.
Really, this all started because you just were trying to think of the person behind the badge, while acknowledging that cops are still bastards. But, because you didn't use the right phrasing they are vilifying you. It's crazy that you're literally being attacked because you're trying to empathize with another human, as if that's a bad thing.
Thank you! I needed to hear that because I was beginning to wonder if I was the one in the wrong and just that clueless about it. Your rather succinct summary helped put this into perspective.
I do wonder what you think "the right phrasing" to use might have been to avoid all this drama. As on edge as the entire country seems to have become, I honestly can't think of a way to say what I did without offending somebody - which is why I led off with "I know I'm gonna get shit for this..." I so miss the days decades ago when we at least would pretend to debate in a civil manner.
LOVE the username, BTW.
When it comes to dbzer0 users, unless you make it blatantly clear that you're a militant anti-capitalist "anarchist" then they will jump to some ridiculous conclusion that you are somehow a "capitalist bootlicker."
There's no need to worry about what specific phrasing to appease them. They seem to actively look for ways to interpret you in a way that makes you an enemy somehow.
Always remember, you better filesystem check yourself before you filesystem wreck yourself.
Yeah, the extreme tribalism in this country has gotten so effing tiring to deal with. Each group attacks others using the exact same methods they're complaining about the others using, and it's absurd just how cluelessly self-unaware they all are. In the end they've all just become bullies, and if their vote didn't count just as much as mine then I'd be inclined to just leave them to their immature foolishness. Since their votes do matter, I feel like I need to point out the realistic & pragmatic POV whenever I can in hopes of at least keeping them from convincing others to join their tribe.