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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Well, yes, but this is a necessity.

You can't (yet) run such a system otherwise, it would take way too much funding & time/indoctrination to get unwilling-ish people to do this shit.

Currently ICE HR uses the base mass unemphatic culture with strong branding (+propaganda) & sense of belonging. Which are cheap to exploit/already there.

But even the most sadistic such agents have a limit, more of a hardwired shellshock type of thing that builds up (the more extreme example is how Nazis just had to stop mass executing villages bcs even soldiers that really wanted to do it had like a gore limit that built up to the point of them being unable to physically work).
With ICE agents not seeing the full horror first hand (and just willing to not imagine the consequences) this limit is far off I imagine, unfortunately.

I'm not advocating violence, this is just as a system explanation/mechanic, but ICE agents morale (and thus the effort) is def very vulnerable to any violence at this point. That is the reason why they are getting only the tamest job assignments (=human targets), suspiciously so. It's not like it wouldn't help the propaganda machine if they busted violent gangs (they have all the equipment & overwhelming numbers, just not the people capable of not falling apart with such actions).

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it sounds like the "escort an immigrant" drives have been pretty effective so far - it sounds like they're pretty conflict avoidant when they don't have overwhelming force. So far, at least.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I kind of want to see how badly these shit gargling einsatzgrupen wannabees would fuck up going after a hard target of some sort.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, besides everything being horrifically bad, from a strictly entertainment pov, yeah, I wanna see a vid where 20 of them run away from a single Florida-man wielding a musket & a gator after the initial assault fails to be effective.

(Still all of the 20 heroes would get medals & lifetime annuities for ptsd.)

Oh shit that wohld be fun to watch.