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[–] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Could AI be used to create a bunch of useless chatter in the airways that they would have to sift through and waste their time? Maybe use AI for actual good.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

IMSI spoofing is a product of wireless telephony being an ancient (way-pre-internet) technology, and we're long in an era where law enforcement (or in this case law-enforcement coded) investigators don't have to obey laws, such as assuring due process, and unreasonable searches disqualifying evidence. Instead they're hunting political enemies, and every prisoner of the United States is now a political prisoner.

It also means we don't have to obey the law, and can start using all-frequency jammers in and around protests and ICE actions to level the playing field. (It will also interfere with regular infrastructure, but it's not like ICE or the current regime gives half a fuck about that.

All-frequency jammers are older tech and easier to build than IMSI spoofers, and are highly illegal since so much of our commerce and communications depend on radio. But the current [FCC] has also been captured and is failing to do its job.

Any Amateur Radio enthusiast will know how to make a jammer. And current battery technology would assure you could make a handful that are portable and powerful enough to shut down blocks and blocks of municipal communication. This is playing pretty hardball, but then ICE isn't playing by the rules.

[–] Sawblade02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

From an RF enthusiast,

Wideband jamming will get a lot of attention very quickly and is extremely easy to triangulate with handheld hardware and a couple of hours of training. I'd recommended against doing that.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Hide them and trigger them remotely.

Alternate between multiple devices and relocate every time you use it.

I bet you could waste a lot of their time with this.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 22 hours ago

At the point you already have a tense paramilitary operation clashing with protests in what is escalating towards lethal violence, I'm not sure finding wideband jammers will be the priority of responders in the area, at least not the first few times.

Though in times of peace and order, wideband jamming is, yes, a big no-no.

[–] jonesey71@lemmus.org 3 points 23 hours ago

I understand it would be totally easy to triangulate if it were a single jammer, but would it be possible to triangulate a mesh of maybe half a dozen jammers. It seems like a headache to try to triangulate that because your signal strength would be all over the place.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

It also means we don't have to obey the law

Not true. Even pre ICE. Law enforcement is allowed to lie to you, but you cannot lie to them. The playing field is not level.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yes/no.

The data processing capabilities they have will far FAR outweigh anything you can effectively achieve with AI spam at your scale.

Even if you got thousands to participate, it wouldn't really be all that much.

Remember, these are agencies already doing data processing on social media, meaning they're already setup to analyze billions of messages a day.

Texting is so low volume it's almost comical, and people that are trying to poison the well stand out and become easy to filter.