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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Trans people don't change gender. They stop hiding it.

Updating a birth certificate is fixing an error

It's also a strange point to hold ideologically. Why is "at birth" an ideal to hold above others? In literally any circumstance where a birth certificate is needed, "now" is going to be more useful than information that is decades out of date. Nothing is gained from holding to an ideal that puts out of date information above current information, so appeals to treat it as sacrosanct always make me wonder exactly what it is that makes people put pointless ideals above the very real impact incorrect information has

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"At birth" isn't an ideal - it's a fact. FFS - it's in the actual name of the certificate.

The exact and only point of a birth certificate is to record that on such-and-such date at such-and-such time, a baby was born to [this] person, and it possessed [these] distinguishing characteristics. That's it. Who or what that baby became later in life isn't relevant. At all.

In literally any circumstance where a birth certificate is needed, “now” is going to be more useful than information that is decades out of date.

Which is in fact exactly why I said that "that’s an argument against using, or requiring, a birth certificate as ID" - because a birth certificate, of necessity, is a record of information that's significantly out-of-date.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

The ideal in question isn't "at birth", it's whatever it is that drives folk to think "at birth" somehow matters more than "now"

because a birth certificate, of necessity, is a record of information that's significantly out-of-date.

There is no such necessity. I live in Australia. Here, trans folk can get their birth certificate amended to reflect their correct gender.

If it was a "necessity" that it not be changed, that wouldn't be possible.

Your insistence that it can't be changed "for reasons" isn't a necessity, it's an ideal (and a harmful one at that).