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[–] luminn@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

And it's worth remembering that all of this was kicked off by a large scale terrorist attack perpetrated by Hamas.

This is insane when Israel was killing Palestinians years before Hamas even existed.

The Nakba happened 40 years before they existed.

Israel has commited genocide and ethnic cleansing since the first day it was conceived and reducing this to "both sides are bad" because the Palestinian way of resisting is not perfect is not an fair assessment of the situation.

[–] brot@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago

This is a great example why we should be really careful discussing history here. Yes, the Nakba did happen. But what did happen before the Nakba? The arab attack on Israel right after it was founded. What did happen before that? The arab revolt from 1936-1939. What did happen after the Nakba? The deportation of Jews from nearly all arab countries. What did happen after that? Several wars, intifadas, terror acts from both sides and so on. There can't be peace when you use history like that. Both sides can point to atrocities of the other side and continue fighting - to take your words, palestinians were killing Jews even before Israel was founded and Israel was attacked several times with a clear genocidal intention and there are people living in Israel who were ethnical cleansed out of arab states.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

Yeah and you´re totally sane when you ignore what happened before that, of course. Extremists from both sides have been trying to put a genocide on the other to claim the soon-to-be-independent territory for more than a hundred years