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$thing is Warhammer 40k
Yep. Popularity hasn't yet died down, but having a bunch of closed-minded "anti-woke" (i.e. Fascists) people dogpiling onto 40k as though they're begging to be Servitorised in the service of the Emp'rah is... dismaying, to say the least.
Worst part is, one can't even have a conversation with such fans, as they instantly shoot down any and all subjects which they deem even marginally related to "woke stuff," sometimes with disturbing zeal. How such an obvious satirical dystopia can be misinterpreted in such a way is beyond me...
Some people are just really passionate about their tiny yellow plastic toy soldiers all having imaginary penises. The penises are important to them. They can't bear to imagine a Legio Custodes that doesn't have a full armament of cock.
This is why I either went with Chaos (during my adolescence, mostly outgrew them) or Aeldari. I mean, they aren't that much better from a lore perspective, but at least they give everyone a chance to suffer equally...
What I also appreciate about Chaos is that their writers know they're evil. I swear the people writing loyalist books forget that the Imperium is basically as bad as the rest in its own way.
Very much, yes! Chaos is the clearest, most stable faction in the entire lore in terms of characterisation and intent!
Honestly, I think the ambiguity behind the Imperium's portrayal stems from a sort of pandering to the popularity of the faction itself, maybe even to blunt the sharpness a bit, make it more accessible to new inductees. Easier to sell a "slightly Theo-Fascistic" galactic empire than "we need to sacrifice literally thousands of people marked as Other to a corpse and, yes, corpse starch is exactly what it says on the tin. Oh, and we'll need to lobotomise about 10000 of you because our biotoxin planet-wiping nukes need polishing."
It's a pity, because that's exactly what drew me into 40k to begin with, that feeling of "wow, this stuff's beyond horrific, my morbid curiosity is tickled seventy shades of pink!"
What about their penises?
I'm sure Fabulous Bill has a couple of attachments that would make even Slaanesh blush.
Never asked!😕
Let me interject with my unasked opinion:
Aa far as I'm concerned the trouble started when we stopped calling it fluff and started calling it lore (and treating it with such reverance) instead.
And Tolkien's Legendarium is just a bunch of hastily-written bedtime stories for Chris, right?
Oh, no, with literally hundreds of books' worth of backstory beyond all of the "your headcanon is valid" bits, we are well and truly beyond simple fluff.
Fluff is those 3 paragraphs of contextual flavour text you get on the back of a board game box.
When did it become popular for the hordes?
I'd say Space Marine 1 did a significant job in making the franchise more nerd-mainstream. Before it, it was the Dawn of War game and expansions. Slow and steady growth of awareness, I think
The increased accessibility of SM1 most definitely helped. To be very honest, the thing which got me into 40k was the excellent Dawn of War series. Not only was it one of the first fully 3D RTS games, but every one up to and including the two Dawn of War II titles are absolutely brilliant strategy games (with II being closer to Kill Team with reinforcements, granted).
Heck, I still play Dark Crusade regularly, one of the tightest and most enjoyable RTS campaign modes I've played to date!
When? No idea, but all the sudden it was quiet normal to see Spacemarine and Orc figures appearing on the desks of nerds...
Yeah, I always feel a little embarrassed to bring it up. I'm liking that there are more underground games coming out now like turnip28 and trench crusade, but they don't scratch the same itch in the same way yet.