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Did the Riddler think he was gonna die? Did his henchmen? I didn't get that vibe. And I think the Riddler was interested in the theatrics of his work from the get go, getting captured, the riddles (obvi lol), etc. I feel like going out on a big bang was always within character. And although he may have started by targeting the corrupt, I think his natural progression towards just targeting the wealthy or the "not like him" made sense. The Riddler killing many people via the flood felt natural to me but maybe I need to rewatch it.
As for his followers, we don't get a ton of screen time with them but the movie was very effective at evoking the right wing twitch/forum/podcast vibe of a deep dark rabbit hole - so maybe I'm projecting - but I 100% can see random people who think the Riddler's form of violence is cool or admirable being willing to dehumanize the people in the arena enough to commit mass murder. Idk, it's the disciple vs the leader dilution of the message or intent. And I'd still argue that the intent was never to improve things or be consistent, it was to make people hurt the way he did and justify it however he could.
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The henchmen were right in the middle of the flood and continued to fight Batman. Ironman 3 was more realistic when a goon dropped their weapon and said they didn't even like the job.
I thought the point was they were in the rafters and therefore wouldn't die, and then we're all armed with scoped rifles aimed at the "corrupt" politicians they viewed as a problem they were justified in forcibly removing. All of that feels very accurate to the Riddlers initial plans - kill "the corrupt people in charge" and "sacrifice yourself for the greater good" (by getting captured by the police like the Riddler does).
These were fanatics, they were extremists. In Ironman 3 they were henchmen who came off as mercenaries, people not devote to the cause and their simply to make money. Not that Ironman 3 should really be used as a great example with their use of the 10 rings only to retcon that so like... We're they henchmen mercs or were they devote ninja soldiers or...? Still, pretty different situation.