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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Uh... This is coming from the folks who said "he who does not work, neither shall he eat" during a famine so... uh... yeah, that's not the flex you think it is.

Edit: And in case anyone is wondering, this gets worse with context.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I thought it was the nazis who said that, so I checked it with FuckDuckGo assist:

This phrase, "He who does not work, neither shall he eat," originates from the New Testament, specifically 2 Thessalonians 3:10,

Also love that people try to make it morally acceptable because of reasons.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As opposed to the current time of surplus and abundance where it is if "you don't work you don't eat". Which is morally a lot worse considering there is more than enough food to feed everyone

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah... no. Very little in modern history is morally worse than Soviet management of the famine of 1930-1933 (which they caused, too). That shit was at least on par with the Irish Famine in terms of sheer moral depravity.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let me get this straight. To you, a famine produced unintentionally through policy that spiked class war and originated primarily from rich farmers sabotaging the crops and livestock as a response to their lands being collectivized in the first successful collectivization of a country in the history of the Earth, is to you as morally depraved as the English colonists literally starving Irish to death because of colonial and racist beliefs?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I won't dignify this slop with a response. Fucking tankies, man.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com -1 points 1 week ago

You won't dignify me with a response because you're simply replicating propaganda that you've heard on Reddit, and you can't argue from knowledge but from vibes.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't know choosing to not feed people when there is enough food to feed everyone seems a lot worse than choosing which people to not feed during a time of famine.

Obviously more people die from the famine, but at least that's due to a lack of resources and not a manufactured scarcity

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

I can't find a way to phrase this that's not offensive, so I'll just go ahead: Are you being obtuse or do you just not know what you're talking about? Because if it's the latter you should at least take a scroll down this Wikipedia page before you talk about this stuff. However, I will say that sacrificing millions of people for holy communism (which is what happened; the famine was a choice) isn't much better than sacrificing them for holy property rights. Not asking for foreign aid and denying a famine even existed was also inexcusable.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They also created the famine by decentralizing agriculture and planning, but at least that sort of people learned their lesson from it and didn't repeat the exact same blunder in China years later, right?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

during a famine