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[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They have a big share in the current state of affairs, whether it is the genocide of the Palestinian people or the complete failure of Europe. the German state hasn't changed a fucking bit

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What is meant by "complete failure of Europe"?

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Probably the endless degradation of worker rights, welfare state, salaries and infrastructure since 2008, coupled with the rise of the far right?

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

I'm being hyperbolic, but whenever tensions hit the EU members will just go back to their old ways, the idea European states will somehow unify in face of a threat is absolutely laughable, no Belgian soldier will ever take orders from a polish sergeant.

When the question was asked of "How will we pay for covid" The dutch gov was instantly saying they "won't pay for those lazy southerners"

The EU alliance always was about monetary gain, not building an actual coherent political entity.

[–] Foofighter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think Germany stopped invading Poland and killing Jews in gas chambers. So I'd say Germany changed at least a little bit.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Germany happily joined the bombing of Libya and Yugoslavia, and the invasion of Iraq. Just because now it's brown people dying, it doesn't make it better.

[–] Foofighter@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don't quite remember Germany being in Iraq or Lybia lately. Also, while being a bit rusty on my history, wasn't the military involvement in Yugoslavia to stop the genocide on the local Muslim, or, as you call them, brown, population?

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 2 points 5 hours ago

as you call them, brown

I was obviously being critical of the disregard westerners exercise on the lives of those they consider non-whites, sorry you're too obtuse to see that.

Don't quite remember Germany being in Iraq or Lybia lately

Sorry, you're right, I mixed up German involvement in the invasion of Afghanistan with Iraq. Germany did participate in the bombing of Libya during the NATO maneuvers that ended up precipitating the murder of Gaddafi and the Libyan Civil War.