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Vans and minivans do everything trucks and SUVs do, and they do it better. Every time. No exception. SUVs and crossovers are just worse minivans for people who think they're too cool to drive a minivan.

And those outside of North America largely need not apply. I wish we could just have a robust public transit system here, but apparently, public transit is antithetical to muh freedum or something. Or so they tell me.

And that's not even getting into the point the post makes, which is that these monstrosities are getting bigger and more dangerous to pedestrians, yet our governments do nothing to stop it.

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[–] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The argument is not that some people need trucks.

It is that huge trucks and suvs shouldn’t be the way they are nowadays. They can tow just as much if the hood is redesigned so it has better visibility than an M1 tank, because it’s currently worse. They’re stupid and oversized in the wrong ways.

If you need a real truck, you probably should get a flat front Isuzu FTR or something more functional than a sidewalk princess designed to kill pedestrians.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They changed the rules in my country. You can buy a truck but I'll be taxed like a personal car instead of light cargo, unless you have a business and it's a company car. That seriously curbed the eagerness to buy one.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

100% the last bit. Unless you’re regularly hauling a fifth-wheel camper or have swapped the bed for a towing rig there’s pretty much no reason to own one and it’ll be worse at everything. For personal use there are sooooo many vans that do a better job and for work that goes double!

Trucks are just straight terrible.