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[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Allah@infosec.pub -4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Shut up, killing innocent civilians is a war crime. It doesn't matter what your justification is, killing civilians is wrong and if you don't feel bad about it you are broken inside.

[–] Allah@infosec.pub -3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

no one is saying it is right smart ass, i am just saying you should accuse the entity that militarizes civillian areas

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

It doesn’t matter what your justification is, killing civilians is wrong

Do you know how to read?

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR JUSTIFICATION IS

[–] swordfish@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What to do then in a situation where civilians are killing other civilians?

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Its wrong for anyone to kill civilians, what are you talking about?

[–] swordfish@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Civil war. When one group of civilians is going against another group of civilians.

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Do you think that the union army or the Confederate army were civilians in the American civil war?

Civilians = non-combatants

If they're engaging in warfare, they aren't civilians

[–] swordfish@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That is very USA centric, so I dont know the background enough there. The argument i am trying to make is against the "there is no justification" part of your statement. A similar statement would be there is no justification to kill anybody ever. Sounds all good and valid, until shit hits the fan properly. If you read my question as "killing civillians is fine" then that is an incorrect interpretation.

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Killing should only be done in self defense. Dropping bombs on civilians is not self defense

[–] swordfish@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I got no argument against this formulation. Unless of course someone would threaten to kill my family unless i press a button and then random people die and my family gets to live. Not self defense, not combatants. I'd press the shit out of it anyway.

[–] Allah@infosec.pub 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

"engaging in warfare" is subjective

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I bet the Geneva convention has a pretty objective definition.

[–] Allah@infosec.pub -3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

ok but who is to blame for their deaths? the allies or axis ?

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The people that drop bombs on civilians are responsible for killing civilians.
The people who starve a population are responsible for starving a population.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION IS

[–] Allah@infosec.pub -2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

wrong it was axis fault for militarizing it in the first place, by not bombing it they would have incentivized the practice

THE FAULT IS ON AXIS NOT ALLIES

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Were the nazis justified in destroying the Warsaw ghetto because Jewish groups had militarized it?

[–] Allah@infosec.pub 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

of course not because they were agressor in invading poland which had a goverment of it's own

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Are you saying that people have the right to militarize parts of their own country? And doing that doesn't justify murdering civilians? Sounds like you've switched to my side

[–] Allah@infosec.pub 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

i am saying germans were agressors in ww2 that's why it was bad

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

International Law doesn't make that distinction. The only reason you make that distinction is because you want to justify killing some civilians

[–] Allah@infosec.pub 0 points 14 hours ago

i am confused, i mean isn't reducing civillian casualties good? Sounds like you’ve switched to my side