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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 21 points 1 day ago (9 children)

People scream at me when I say "abolish the police". Even radical progressives. To me the solution is obvious but nobody wants to listen.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I agree with you.

The police, as an institution, should be abolished.

And a new institution put it its place.

And, off the top of my head, just a few things it should do differently is in no particular order

Citizen Oversight boards made up of 7 educated citizens (with no professional or familiar connection to law enforcement), chosen at random, to serve 3 month tours, with 3 local lawyers, also selected at random, and in good standing, to advise on the legal side of things but with no vote themselves. (Cause sometimes just cause its not technically illegal doesnt mean its not horrific and awful and deserving of punishment/reprimand)

national black list, so cops that do bad cant just jump ship to the next jurisdiction over.

Liability insurance, that is paid for by the replacement organization, out of their wages, with no payout caps (because fuck being permanently crippled due to abuse and only getting 30k)

No qualified immunity.

must live in the communities they serve.

no training them to think or behave like their the last surviving member of a super elite commando unit behind enemy lines, and that everyone is their potential enemy.

training must take longer than it takes to become a beautician, including extensive learning of not just what the laws are, but what is expected of them as a servant of the public, behavior and atittude wise.

regular refresher courses, at least 3 months long, every 2 years, to maintain, update, and verify their knowledge of the law and the duty they choose to take up, failing this course is a firable offense.

Then put all the money you save from all of this, and put into social needs and improvements.. Which will reduce crime more than putting a bunch of paramilitary wannabe pretenders on the street.

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Oh, and one last one.. mandatory +20 years to any conviction, for betrayal of the public good and public trust.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Abolish the police, today. Empty the prisons. Replacing them with something else just continues the problem in a new way.

Does crime suddenly become an issue? Then figure something else out.

The current system doesn't work, so end it. A single day's delay means innocent people suffering and dying, so end it today.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm with you on immediate abolition of police and dismantling the carceral system, but "figure something else out" sounds very hand-wave-y. Community initiatives, economic reform, and vastly improved and accessible mental health resources will go a long way towards drastically reducing crime, maybe even eliminating many forms of it, but there does need to be some form of framework for investigation and redressal of the rare crimes that do occur

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