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[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 61 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'd rather see mandatory rear running lights. The amount of people who can't be arsed to turn on their lights in bad visibility conditions is too damn high.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

and on the opposite side don’t turn on your emergency lights while driving in bad weather. you’re only causing confusion by making it seem like you have turn signals on if i can’t see both blinkers.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Thats more an issue of using the same lamp for rear lights and turn signal

[–] mundane@feddit.nu 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It used to be mandatory with always on rear lights in Sweden (you couldn't even turn them off). But an adaptation to EU rules removed that requirement. 😓

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I strongly doubt it was genuinely linked to that. There are EU countries where having lights on all the time is mandatory.

[–] mundane@feddit.nu 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There was an EU rule about ten years ago that stipulated that rear lights are no longer mandatory in daylight. The reasoning being to save on fuel. Which is a ridiculous reason, even more so with today's LED lights.

I don't know about other EU countries but this was the reason that Sweden removed the requirement. All cars in Sweden used to have the rear lights turned on at all time, even if the light switch was in the off position, but that changed around the same time.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

that stipulated that rear lights are no longer mandatory in daylight.

I don't believe these were ever mandatory in the EU? UK never had such requirement.

Edit:

What I mean is there are EU countries where lights are still mandatory and countries where it isn't so I cannot see how it could be linked to EU requirements either way.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Rear fog lights on all vehicles (some vehicles have them now).

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's forbidden to use rear fog lights under rain (it's more confusing than helpful)

if you live somewhere dry, that's not a concern. But here it rains 1 day in 3

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don't know where you are but rear fogs aren't illegal in the rain here and from experience they are nothing but helpful in heavy rain and white out snow. I am always so so sooo glad when someone in front of me is using them when it's absolutely pouring. You really have to not be paying attention not to notice that it's two lights and not three and somehow mistake them for stop lights.

In fact, Transport Canada recommends using them in fog, rain, or snow.

Use only if driving in fog, rain or snow as these lights can be confused with stop lights, distracting other drivers.

https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transportation/safety-standards-vehicles-tires-child-car-seats/using-your-vehicle-lights-see-be-seen

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

II. - Le ou les feux arrière de brouillard ne peuvent être utilisés qu'en cas de brouillard ou de chute de neige. ☞ https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000006842263

Feux de brouillard arrière : ils sont indiqués uniquement en cas de brouillard ou de chute de neige (mais jamais sous la pluie en raison de leur trop grande intensité)https://public.codesrousseau.fr/conseils-pratiques/909-feux-de-brouillard-avant-et-arriere-quand-les-utiliser.html

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Ça c'est de l'osti de merde comme on dit ici.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Yes that as well, I love mine and use them a lot. But that's a step above rear running lights. There's no god damn reasons the rear indicators shouldn't be on all the time.