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Yes I know China is also technically capitalist but you understand the idea

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

China is as communist as the vatican is good for kids

But sure let us be blinded by propaganda and ignore that the trains in china are held together by ducktape, rails are unsafe and got build with slave labor :)

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

nd ignore that the trains in china are held together by ducktape, rails are unsafe and got build with slave labor :)

?? I don't love china but ignoring the enormous amount of investment they've made is silly. that's what it is, investment. The amount of roads and rail in the last 20 years should give anyone pause, instead of discounting it.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To be fair, they played a significant part in building American railroads too, so that original point is a bit off to begin with

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't think u have travelled to china. Their rail system is fantastic. All out train in US looks like came from steel mill from Philadelphia. Boxy trash and slow af

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dont need to travel to see that chinese people live in poverty, anything can be done when you are a dictatorship, its corrupt and everything is a scam. Fake meat, fake tofu, tofu drag constructions, 4 billion on a road and all the village got was a gravel path. Where a state teaches kids to hate other nations and disrespect everything for something that happened 80 years ago instead of making sure this does not ever happen again. Where its a national sport to go abroad and harass others. Where the state doesnt care about your stolen things, but if you speak out publicly against it, you will be warned with a kind "take that down, or else".

If their electric cars are anything to go by, i dont even want to step on their most modern trains even if they give me trillions of GBP.

If the regime is supposed to be an example of progress, well guess then we all should go back to european monarchy and imperialism. Europe thrived in the 19th century afterall. Just look at all those rich people living luxurious lifes. All the advancements in science, medicine, transportation, literatur, architectur, social policies, unification of people split appart and more.

If i were to travel to china they would arrest me on the airport for critisising china and not seeing the CCP as legitimite and supporting taiwan, that being if i would even be allowed to enter the country.

The USA train system is shit, yes, thats not even on debate. Against that even the russian train system is amazing.

Also china didnt build its high speed trains on their own. They used EU and japanese tech.

Japan has the best train system in the entire world, and that without being a supressive, all survaling dictatorship. OP here is comparing shit, scooped from the toilet, to a microwave meal, that got a mediocer plate up. Ofc then in comparison the microwave meal will look better.

[–] jaek@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where a state teaches kids to hate other nations and disrespect everything for something that happened 80 years ago instead of making sure this does not ever happen again. Where its a national sport to go abroad and harass others. Where the state doesnt care about your stolen things, but if you speak out publicly against it, you will be warned with a kind "take that down, or else".

Are you talking about the US or china here?

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The rails are good, but a bit rushed planning wise. Haven't been to China, but the biggest complaints I've heard are more "they stuck a station in a super inconvenient spot so they could show progress on the project"

The trains and track seem to have been well built though.