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Is it not the voters fault though?
No, it's not.
It's the fault of the Democrats, who had an abundance of information about the unpopularity of Biden and his presidency, and then made a series of awful decisions about the presidential campaign, not the least of which being nominating a weak candidate who prioritized Biden's ego over appealing to voters.
You also cannot tell voters who've been getting poorer while you've ruled that you won't change anything, and definitely shouldn't tell them to be joyful about it.
Wow. You're in the same Olympics as the Republicans with these mental gymnastics.
Respectfully, you can try to gaslight me or cast aspersions, but my eyes actually function. Thank you.
Do they though?
Thank you for the vigorous discussion. I hope you have pleasant afternoon.
They’re booing you for telling the truth
It's the voters fault and the democratic party's
...and...
The opponent promised all kinds of things to voters who had been getting poorer, most of those promises were straight up fantasy, while others were distorted mistruths.
In your mind, do you think voters are free from have any responsibility for critical thinking? If a known liar is lying to you and you take action supporting those lies, should you be responsible when the lies are indeed shown to be lies?
This is the second time you've used this exact same language. Can you cite the source where you're saying Democrats told people they should be joyful?
If I'm starving to death, and the most trustworthy man in the world says "I will do nothing to help you" while the most dishonest man in the world (Donald Trump) says "I will shower you with more food than you have ever seen in your life" I'm going to take my chances with the dishonest man. Maybe the lie is how much but there will still be something. Better than a guaranteed nothing.
Except its not a "better than a guaranteed nothing". The liar didn't just not shower you with food, he stripped you of what little clothing you had left, and threw you out in the desert to die faster, and he even has a history of that, so its not like you didn't know the liar was capable of it.
Best case scenario with the honest man: he does nothing and I starve to death. Worst case scenario with the lying man: I starve to death anyway. May as well try changing things.
Sure, maybe I starve to death faster, but you give most people a choice between "100% chance you starve to death" and "99% chance you starve to death and 1% chance you don't" and they will take the 1% chance.
At least the lying man admits there's a fucking problem. "Everything is fine and nothing needs to change" was not a good strategy.
With the lying man, as in my example, you won't starve to death, you'll die from exposure long before you die of starvation. If you're seeing dying much sooner as direct result of his actions as an equal outcome, I'm not sure what to tell you.
He's not admitting there's a problem, he saying whatever he thinks you want to hear to give him your vote. This man stiffed his own employees and contractors on a regular basis. On what evidence in his entire life, did you arrive at the conclusion that rich donald trump wanted to do anything at all to improve the life of people like us? Not words. Actions.
We don't have to speak in theoreticals though. trump won. Are you glad he got voted in? Is your life better now? Or is this now worse than under Biden?
There's dying, or a 1% chance of not dying. These are in fact not equal.
Which to someone starving to death is a lot better than someone saying "everything is fine, keep the status quo".
Nope. I was spending time trying to argue with people to do the bare fucking minimum to stop this, and the Democrats did not help with their campaign of "lets change nothing because everything is fine."
Not an American. I'll be fine. I can just understand why someone who is desperate (which according to polls is over 50% of your population) could decide to vote for someone who says they want to fucking change things, instead of the people saying everything is fine and they will change nothing.
Por que no dos?