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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 185 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Can they really be called spaceships if they never get to space?

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Even worse - he named his space vessels 'Starship' - implying that they have the ability to travel between stars.

They will study this man's narcissism in future history classes alongside Trump. The era of the ego.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 24 points 1 year ago

Even worse worse, he named prior projects after Culture ship names. Whose author despised him.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean by that definition, Voyager is a starship, eventually.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voyager I and II are probes, not ships.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A ship can transport people or goods, and I argue that data is a type of good.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Friendship transports a type of good.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago

There's that golden record, so there are physical goods as well.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah but we already have a less ambiguous name which is "probe" haha.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I would argue that its purpose as a probe outweighs its purpose as a ship, as such the specification of probe would still outweigh it being a starship by technicality.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People going to space are called astronauts - in this context I see no problem with Starship.

[–] irmoz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how the context of the word "astronaut" justifies implying interstellar travel that you aren't capable of.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It justifies it by precedens. Aster means star - astronauts have been called people travelling to stars for a long time, even though interstellar travel is not possible for us yet, so naming their means of transport Starship is not out of line. It just follows a kind of funny naming tradition.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Is cosmonaut filled with as much hubris?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I can't find the article now, but there was a news article that talked about "interstellar missions to mars", and it drove me nuts

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

technically, travelling on earth (or anywhere else in the universe), is travelling between stars, because we're likely to be between 2.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago

A car isn't a ocean cruiser just because it's always between two oceans

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago

Technically they’re fireworks.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steamships don't sail on steam, but they're called steamships anyway because they have steam in them. Elon Musk's spaceships don't use up every bit of volume contained within them, therefore they contain space.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Don't steam ships use steam engines? (Or at least did historically?)

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The last one got into space ...and then caught on fire.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is impressive, as fire usually needs excess oxygen available.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rockets carry oxygen (oxidizers) with them. It's kinda how they work.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah they've reduced safety for payload. The ship vibrates so badly the fuel lines get destroyed, mix, and cause the fires.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cybertrucks are spaceships, because they take up space.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

ok, but even a slight rain destroys them, they can't be ships