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It Really Felt Like 2 Friends Fighting (lemmy.ca)
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[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I get to advocate for social safety nets and general welfare at the cost of the rich as much as I want regardless of how little acceptance I have for delusional scalies.

This should not define left wing politics.
You should be allowed by the rest of this userbase to define left wing politics with this nonsense.
If you are the left wing, the left wing loses the majority forever.

The progressive movement was supposed to be a realistic movement, without the delusions of religion.
But you lot managed to co-opt the culture of the progressive movement into accepting all kinds of alternative forms of idiocy, but this otherkin shit is arguably less annoying than astrology's rampant infection of feminism.

Our movement is crippled by insanity. Our contemporaries are nothing like our predecessors. We are significantly worse.
Less capable, less intelligent, less successful.

I hope for our sake it's the fucking microplastics, because if we managed to fuck this up so bad without suffering from some poison, if it's completely our own fault, then that's just fucking sad.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder

The DSM-IV and psychologists agree that personal beliefs should be evaluated with great respect to cultural and religious differences, as some cultures have normalized beliefs that may be considered delusional in other cultures.[15]

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9599-delusional-disorder

A delusion is an unshakable belief in something that’s untrue. The belief isn’t a part of the person’s culture or subculture, and almost everyone else knows this belief to be false.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539855/

A delusion is a fixed false belief based on an inaccurate interpretation of an external reality despite evidence to the contrary. The belief is not congruent with one’s culture or subculture, and almost everyone else knows it to be false.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/conditions/delusional-disorder

Delusions are fixed beliefs that do not change, even when a person is presented with conflicting evidence. Delusions are considered "bizarre" if they are clearly implausible and peers within the same culture cannot understand them.

You can't appeal to being "realistic" while you deny science by calling cultural beliefs delusions. You are denying science. Drag has explained the science to you. If leftism is going to do what you say, it will have to leave science behind. And that's wrong.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We seem to have found the crux of it, this is how you convince yourself.

I have little sympathy for you on this one.
You just have a weird, unimportant problem.

I have some sympathy, I think you'll need a friend when you crash out of it.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are denying science.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'd argue two things:

  1. Religious people are also delusional, just not usually in the same way as the classical disorder.
  2. Furry/Scalie/Otherkin "culture" is not in the scope of the intention of the cultural/religious exception.

Especially considering almost all furries know they're not actually a dog or a wolf or a cat, regardless of how enthusiastic their roleplay gets. When your seriousness is not shared by the majority of your culture I think it should be obvious even to you that the exception would not apply. That is unless you claim a different, even more niche culture.

And I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess your parents aren't "dragonkin" or any otherkin, either. It's not the culture of your hometown or family.

Your otherkin "culture" is no more valid an exception than the joining of a cult.