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Transphobia guidelines (feddit.uk)

submitted 1 week ago by flamingos@feddit.uk to c/feddituk@feddit.uk

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Good day all, in response to the increase in transphobia we've experience since the For Women Scotland v Scotland Supreme Court decision, seemingly a mix of genuine malice and people tripping up with a topic they're unfamiliar with, I've taken the initiative to write some guidelines on how to engage in the topic and clearing up some common misconceptions.

https://guide.feddit.uk/politics/transphobia.html

I'm not all that happy with them, I want something more comprehensive but my time has been pretty taxed lately and I don't want my perfectionism to stand in the way of having these out. If there's any issues, glaring omissions or whatnot, then please let me know or make a pull request here.

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the bit you object to?

it’s transphobic to believe that a trans person’s identity is worth less or is less valid that a cis person’s, even if you don’t feel any malice for trans people.

So invalidating a trans person's whole identity doesn't count as transphobic in your view, and you go on to object to moderation actions being taken on these grounds! You claim you want more dialogue but what you actually want is moderators to tolerate your transphobic pontifications without consequences for you, never mind the affect on other people's mental health.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What sort of effect on other people's mental health are you referring to here?

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Being invalidated upsets trans people. Suicide rates are alarmingly high in the community because of that kind of whole-being rejection. Your transphobic pontifications are idle speculation for you but can be powerfully upsetting for trans people. I don't know how you can be so devoid of empathy or emotional intelligence that you don't get that or so low on reading comprehension that you couldn't deduce it from context. Trans people need protecting from people discussing whether they have a right to exist.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I see the misunderstanding here. I'm not talking about discussing if transgender people have a right to exist, nor speculating on individual people's identities. I'm talking about respectful philosophical discussion around the subject.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yet this is what you object to, what you want to debate, what you want to discuss philosophically:

even if you don’t necessarily hate them, it’s transphobic to believe that a trans person’s identity is worth less or is less valid that a cis person’s, even if you don’t feel any malice for trans people.

Your "respectful philosophical discussion" about whether trans identities are valid or worth as much as other people's is deeply and profoundly disrespectful and hurtful.

Why can't you just accept that some people are different to you, and you can just let them be without telling them that they're wrong about who they are?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not about telling people that they're wrong about who they are. Just about philosophical discussion surrounding ethics on the subject

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You hide your hate behind clever sounding words.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is why I struggle to take things like this seriously. Probably why I struggle to engage with leftists as a whole. Any time I try and have dialogue, someone has to make a remark like this.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh, you're a conservative! No wonder you didn't pay attention to anything I said, ignored all the main points I made and showed all the empathy of a two year old.