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Do you agree that Brexit has been "a pointless waste of time, money and effort"?

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[–] Novamdomum@fedia.io -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But getting shit wrong is not curruption.

Sure, but corruption is corruption:

Italy: 12 arrests and over €9.6 million seized in investigation into agricultural funding fraud €440k frozen in Italy over suspect scam by fake farmers Italy smashes mafia racket defrauding EU agriculture funds 94 arrested in Italy over EU agriculture funding fraud

And the shit you saw with the EU. Is really just evidence on how open they are.

Well, their own reports are pretty damning: The Commission’s response to fraud in the Common Agricultural Policy There's a "Conclusions and recommendations" section that's quite illuminating.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

Note how that is nations. And folks have been arrested.

So your evidence boils down to you blame criminals on the folks making the laws.

It's logically like saying if we get rid of murder. We don't have murderers.

Boris johnson broke the law during COVID. He also broke parliamentary procedure and the law. When he closed parliament and lied to the queen. To try and force through a Brexit deal he lack both parliamentary support for and the national mandate.

Non of that means the UK is corrupt. It means a subset Brexit supporters are.

Closing parliament because some MPs break the laws parliament creates. Is just removing the laws. Not solving curruption.

You are proposing the same solution to the EU. And if Italy did the same. They would be giving the power to the very people that broke those laws. Much as brexiters did giving power to the billionaires that funded the campaign.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago

Well, their own reports are pretty damning: The Commission’s response to fraud in the Common Agricultural Policy There’s a “Conclusions and recommendations” section that’s quite illuminating.

Taken separately. Because a few mins thought about recent UK history shows how fucked up giving the UK GOV More power to solve this is.

The UK GOV is currently attacking UK disabled benefits. Dispute multiple of their own reports stating it is against both UK law and ECHR laws.

Refusing to release Thier own investigation into the cause of multiple disabled suisides from victims of the gives changes to disability benefits,

If lack of response to recommendations is reason to leave the EU. Honestly you need to buy a boat renounce your citizenship of any nation. Because national governments you wish to give more power to are far far worse.

Guess why billionaires funded Brexit?