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Blue states are the area where my argument is weakest, but honestly as a means of voting against Trump I’d probably still vote Harris if I lived in Cali. I’m less judgemental of people in solid blue states here voting third party, but I still think voting third party even then introduces future risk of vote splitting, but its a gaussian and temporal risk. So its hard to conceptualize.

I'm not just saying blue states: New Hampshire was blue, but only because Harris got fewer than 25 000 more votes than Trump; so yes, voting for Harris in states like New Hampshire is far more forgivable. Ditto "solid blue states": at the risk of pedantry, that could mean blue reps, blue senators, blue governors, but being purple in the vote for President.

I also include red states with big pluralities. If you're a progressive who lives in, say, Wyoming, West Virginia, or Alabama, the people you vote for President are probably not going to win your state for the next few decades, so you might as well vote for a more-progressive-than-the-Democrat candidates—vote your heart.

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Third party and non-voters fucking love jerking themselves off about how virtuous they are for not voting for Harris.

It feels good, man.

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I don’t know. But not for fucking Jill Stein and can tell you that much. I wouldn’t trust her 180 on Ukraine at all and there are other stances of hers I think are dumb. Nor would I likely bother with a different third party. I’d probably look look very closely at my options between red and blue. And I’d probably grit my teeth and vote for Biden depending on how he campaigned but I’d not be nearly as terrified since Trump is out of the picture.

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And that’s the rub: in your scenario fascism is not on the ballot. The stakes are significantly lower. So the details would matter more.

Thanks for answering. 😁🙂

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I don’t think she did, but neither did Trump. And in fact Trump is largely interested in destroying what little democracy we have.

But Trump and RFK, Jr at least went to the Libertarian convention, and Chase got a little over 1/3rd the votes JoJo got.

Imagine Biden or Harris went to a Green Party convention. I can see many of the older Democratic party insiders reaching for their pills, buffers, or defibrillators. 😁

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I’m going to be honest though, it might as well all by hypothetical. Americans are fucked. Its game over, and we very very much deserve what’s coming.

The US had tough times before.

I was in greater despair over the US about 20 years ago.