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It's been three months now...
They're redoing a vice chair election the old DNC fucked up instead of just picking one
They're openly, publicly, and repeatedly saying they're be impartial and backing that with their actions.
They've been pushing local meetings in areas where local politicians refuse to meet with their constituents...
What more did you want in 3 months of taking over?
Seriously, what will make you feel more comfortable in trusting the new DNC?
What do you want?
Remove the dinosaurs stuck in old patterns and ways of doing things. Pelosi and Schumer jump immediately to mind.
Martin isn't going to "go after" anyone.
But he's not going to protect incumbents just because they're incumbents.
It's all progressives need to kick out the dinosaurs, we don't need the party to do it for us, just to not put a gun to our head and say it's a neoliberal or a Republican.
They've said that before. Somehow they always seem to find a way to come to the rescue for an establishment friendly incumbent.
Who is "they"? The people no longer in power?
Fuck them, you'll never see me defend them.
But it's Ken Martin now, and he didnt just show up 3 months ago fully formed...
We can look at how he ran Minnesota's state party, turned a purple state blue and made it one of the most progressive states in the country.
Because while he isn't overtly progressive, what he cares about is winning elections. And he knows voters want progressive policy and fair primaries.
It's not like he's gonna be our Superman, but after 50+ years of Lex Luther running the party, we really don't need anything more from the party.
A fair primary is all it takes to get neoliberals out of office.
All by himself? Did he fix the Minnesota party by protecting conservative Democrats there too? This reads like all the delusion about Musk establishment Democrats had in ages gone by. "Look at all the great things he's doing for the planet!"
That's a contradiction. It's also the definition of who "they" is.
Alternative definition of "they". "You got your marginal surface level improvements, now sit down and shut up or we'll blame you (again) when we lose."
You are them, just nextgen.
Yes...
Chairs are dictators accountable to no one.
So the Buck always stops with the Chair.
Didn't then, isn't now.
What?
This is saying it safe to assume he'll run this political party like he ran the last one.
If you're looking for something with the direct skill transfer, a state party chair to DNC chair is about as close as you can get.
This word, I do not think it means what you think it means...
No, it's foundational improvements....
After literally 50 years of rightwing bias from the party. We finally have a chair willing to run fair primaries...
If you don't understand how huge of a win this is, then you need to read up on party history.
You didn't just sleep in past the battle, you woke up ready to fight after the war is over. We won, the goal was never to be as bad as neoliberals when they were in charge, it was to even the playing field.
Thanks for telling me that you aren't a serious person. I see no reason to continue.
They are redoing a vice chair election because one of the vice chairs they picked decided to push for primary challenges to the old guard. And you think that's a sign that the old guard has fallen? That's some Republican level bullshitting right there.
You don't redo an election once the elected people take office - especially for something like the questionable reasons they offered. Trump's election had a stronger basis for being challenged than this, but the Democrats accepted that on this basis.
The process started almost immediately after the election. Long before Hogg made any comments as a Vice chair, and he has been aware it has been happening this entire time.
Again, the process started at latest right after the election.
How were the people who hadn't been seated yet supposed to clean up the mess before they were seated?
Seriously, how is that logically supposed to have worked out in your mind?
Yet the decision just happened. What a coincidence that the decision was to do what the establishment has always done and protect old guard Democrats.
The country has been taken over by fascists because of the Democrats weakness. Approval ratings for Democrats are in the toilet. Yet the very idea that there should be standards for Democratic politicians is treated as heresy. It's literally insane.
Again, you don't get to just redo an election - especially for something as ridiculously petty as the excuse they found. No rule was broken, only the suggestion that the spirit of a rule could have been better adhered to. The entire point of the rule was to seek gender parity and there were two male VPs and two female. To undo an election instead of adjust the process for future elections is ridiculous - especially when they knew everyone with a brain would notice that they put this issue ahead of rescuing the country from fascists. THIS IS HOW OLD GUARD DEMOCRATS ACT.
I've heard all this cope before when I argued that Clinton would be just another Reagan Republican,band when I argued that Obama wasn't going to be a new kind of Democrat. I've been in this fight a long time, and this is just the same old cope. You believe what you want, most people do, but your just more blue MAGA from where I'm sitting.
to be rid of the Democrat and Republican cancer sickening the body of the United States
So you personally wanted the new head of the DNC to dissolve it?
Ok, that's literally never going to happen.
Looks a lot like the old one, then
In what way?
That when the loser of an election complained the DNC didn't follow the DNC's rules, the chair sent it to a committee who suggested a revote, which will now go to all voting DNC members and if they decide to redo the Vice chair election in accordance with rules they will then revote?
Because...
I really don't think that's what would have happened, I feel like they would have admitted no fault since it was their mistake or just sat who they wanted anyways. I can't see any prior chair kicking it to committee instead of just unilaterally making the decision they personally wanted.
How do you think a Democratic political party should handle something like this? And keep in mind current leadership weren't the ones to cause it and couldn't have prevented it. What would you have done as chair?