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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Sadly, even if Sanders were elected, it wouldn't have made universal healthcare a reality.

You need 218 progressives in the house and 50 progressives in the senate. So... not happening.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Progressives would need to down ballot vote for that to happen. Would also need to support and fund progressive candidates.

Progressives currently can't even do the bare minimum (actually voting), in large enough numbers to matter.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 15 points 22 hours ago

Progressives currently can't even do the bare minimum (actually voting), in large enough numbers to matter.

Of course not!

They're doing something far more critical and effective!

They're withholding votes based on purity testing and otherwise being manipulated into nullifying themselves by online manipulation by the right.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Technically you need 51 or 50 + VP tiebreaker unless a Republican filibusters then you need 60.

You can change senate rules if you have a comfortable majority but I'm pretty sure they can filibuster that, too, and it might backfire like removing the filibuster for SCOTUS and cabinet picks has.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago

You can't filibuster a rule change.

Its literally been done before.

First, filibuster was removed for normal court appointments during Obama Admin

Then filibuster was removed for supreme court appointments during the first trump admin.

Neither could be filibustered (otherwise the rules wouldn't been changed, and we don't have 3 trump appointees in SCOTUS)

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The funny thing is, americans already kinda have universal healthcare...... just with a middleman. Where do they think those insurance premiums are going?

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 5 points 15 hours ago

There's still a significant amount of people who are uninsured. So, no, Americans do not have universal healthcare.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

Executive order deporting anyone in senate not voting for his agenda?

/s (but only for a few months, then headlines will explain how it's apparently a real option)