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A high number of informal votes in a rural NSW electorate with a record number of candidates has been labelled "shameful" by the region's MP.

By May 6 more than 11,000 informal votes had been recorded in the Riverina electorate, accounting for more than 10 per cent of the voter turnout.

What's next?

Riverina MP Michael McCormack and political scientist Dominic O'Sullivan say the voting system should be reformed.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

My understanding is that an informal vote IS a valid way of voting. It may not be what I do, or what you do, or what he does. But people have the right to vote as they wish, and if that results in an invalid vote, then so be it. They are entitled to vote that way.

Is he really whinging that they didn't vote for him?

One other possibility that wasn't covered in the article is that perhaps there were so many informal votes in that electorate because the voters in that electorate are, on average, more stupid than elsewhere in Australia and simply were unable to cast a valid vote. I really would like to see have seen some hard data on that. If that is actually the case, then this guy's complaint that stupid people can't vote properly may be seen by some people as, well, er, stupid.

So, that sends us into the twilight zone, as it begs question: Could Michael McCormack have voted informally?

brain asplodes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My understanding is that an informal vote IS a valid way of voting.

An intentional informal vote is a valid form of political expression. I think it's stupid idealism, and it's not a valid vote, but it's valid as political expression. Like you mentioned, there are also accidental informal votes, like [1, 2, 3, 1, 4] or [1, , , , ].

(A donkey vote, [1, 2, 3, 4, 5], is a valid vote)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

More people should spoil their ballot instead of doing the donkey vote. If they want to express disinterest, the former is better than the latter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Donkey votes can be a valid vote politically, depending on the draw and the individual's political beliefs. I gave what could be considered a donkey vote in the 2024 Qld state election. ("Could be considered" because I've seen one definition that says either [1, 2, 3, 4] or [4, 3, 2, 1] can be called a donkey vote, and the latter is what I did.) It just so happened that in my electorate, candidates were drawn in order from most conservative to most progressive.

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