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Title text:

Unstoppable force-carrying particles can't interact with immovable matter by definition.

Transcript:

[An arrow pointing to the right and a trapezoid are labeled as 'Unstoppable Force' and 'Immovable Object' respectively.]
[The arrow is shown as entering the trapezoid from the left and the part of it in said trapezoid is coloured gray.]
[The arrow is shown as leaving the trapezoid to the right and is coloured black.]
[Caption below the panel:] I don't see why people find this scenario to be tricky.

Source: https://xkcd.com/3084/

explainxkcd for #3084

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It may be worth it to decide how we define ‘unstoppable force’ and ‘immovable object’.

An Immovable Object has 0 velocity:

v = 0

Acceleration is the time derivative of velocity:

a = d/dt(v(t))

a = d/dt(0)

a = 0

And we know that

a = F~net~ / m

An object with infinite mass would satisfy this equation, but an object with no net force would too. We could add a correction force that will satisfy the constraint of 0 net force.

|F~net~| = 0

∑F~i~ = 0

F~correction~ + … = 0

To satisfy Newton’s 3rd law, we would need a reaction force to our correction force somewhere, but let’s not worry about that for now.

A physics definition of ‘Unstoppable Force’ is:

|F~unstoppable~| =/= 0

In this case the gravitational force fits this description, given a few constraints

F~g~ = Gm∑ M~i~ / x~i~^2^

As long as the gravitational constant G is not 0, our object has mass, and

∑ M~i~ / x~i~^2^ =/= 0, then

|F~g~| > 0

But this does feel kinda like cheating because it’s not really what people mean by ‘unstoppable force’. the other way to define it is just immovable object in a different reference frame.

a = 0, |v| > 0

I’m gonna stop here because this is annoying to type out on mobile