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I absolutely get that you don't want to be thinking these things next time you are trying to enjoy your cheap cheeseburger and ice cream, or whatever else your personal guilty pleasure is. I am well aware that I have, at least temporarily, greatly tarnished your ability to selfishly enjoy these things. I hope this conversation will help you, or anyone reading this, be a bit more loving. You have not at all succeeded in convincing me that I should be more selfish, more hateful, or less compassionate. I highly doubt that your best version of yourself would really want what you are so sadly trying to desperately defend.
this is just a series of personal attacks and self-aggrandizing statements.
The reason they feel like personal attacks is because your ego is so twisted around your emotional dependence on a deplorable addiction. If you were able to separate your ideas from yourself, then me questioning your ideas wouldn't be so deeply offensive to you. The trouble is that you can't fathom a life without paying people to destroy the environment and treat animals horribly. This is because you think living without cheap animal products simply isn't an option. I assure you it is, and after your withdrawal, you will actually feel better. It may not take nearly as long or be nearly as unbearable as you are fearing. Really, truly. Most people who have put their morals above their pleasure have gone through this very thing, and I'm confident you can as well.
this isn't about questioning my ideas. it's about developing evidence to support your position. you still haven't don that.
I have. You just are blind to anything that challenges your behavior. Luckily, you have managed to reverse your stance somewhat on factory farms. That's a great win. I hope it sticks with you.
look, normally i think that it's shitty to dig through a user's history and drag it into the current discussion, but i do encourage you to sort my comments by old.
i have been objecting to your feckless method of protecting teh environment for years. this account alone is almost solely focused on pushing people to find effective methods.
you literally have no idea who you are talking to or what you are talking about.
It is incredibly ironic that you see yourself as a moral force for good while vehemently defending some of the most atrocious practices in the world today. I hope you are able to cast aside your addiction so you can see clearly enough to actually do some good. It is clear that you find your behavior deplorable, it is just that you can't fathom giving up on your precious factory farms.
i never did that.
I'm against factory farms. You are for factory farms. It would be incredible if you now try to switch this as well. It would be such progress if you now start trying to attack factory farms for their vile practices.
no, i'm not
This is great progress, not long ago you were.
more posturing and rhetoric, but no evidence that abstaining from factory farmed meat has ever reduced emissions.
It's incredibly easy to search, I have provided an article, but there are many many more that you can easily find. It's been known for a long time. And isn't disagreed on.
this is not evidence
this is not evidence
this is not evidence
this is not evidence
Well, I think we should be thankful for the progress you made. It's so nice to see you now talking against factory farms. Hopefully, you are stro g enough to put your money where your mouth is. Talk only does so much, it's who you support with your energy that really matters.