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"boring corporatists" are destroying our planet and making it unlivable.
So do 100% concentrated evil, but they also wipe their arses with the constitution, set up concentration camps, and literally ruin the political and economic position of the US.
The democrats also set up concentration camps. And the US uses its political and economic position to commit genocide, ruining it is a good thing
An unlivable planet is worse than all those things
Thanks for agreeing with me that on the biggest most important issues both sides are the same
I can see that Biden held twice children at the border at one time than Trump at his highest. I can see that weapons and money to Israel skyrocketed under Biden. I can see that Obama alone prosecuted more whistleblowers than the US had prosecuted in its entire history.
If you only count it as fascism when it starts affecting white people half as much as it was affecting the rest of us then you can't be surprised we consider you just as much of a fascist as them.
Again, your only recourse is "Trump did it too" that's what I'm saying, jesus fucking christ. They're not staving off fascism, they're taking turns ramping it up in different places. When it comes to migrants and foreigners, their policies are the same; sometimes they change tactics or optics, but the end goal remains unchanged. You're hammering home the same point while saying it proves that democrats are much better. No they fucking ain't.
So... it's okay because he was doing what Trump was doing, but a little less per migrant? There is, then, an acceptable rate of people in concentration camps, Trump was just a bit too loose with it.
I don't give a single shit if they're 10% worse for gringos, they're just as bad and in a lot of ways much worse for the rest of the world. It was Biden who pushed the doomsday clock closest to midnight than it'd been since the cuban missile crisis. It was Obama who ramped up the drone bombing campaign, it was Clinton who ordered Gaddafi killed, it was Biden who drafted the 90s crime bill that made the US the most incarcerated population in the entire world.
Matter of fact, whenever something got incredibly shitty for US citizens, you can flip a coin on whether it was Reagan who did it or Jim Crow Joe.
Genocide denier
You're seriously trying to use "The Trump admin said Biden was weak on Israel" as an argument that Biden was actually weak on Israel. Do you give so much trust to Trump in other contexts? Or only when it lets you defend genocide
Both parties are ruining the planet, we agree on that, let's leave it there
No because that is only a half truth. You are willfully ignorant of the other half of the equation. One side is measurably more damaging to the US and the world overall. You don't get to "both sides" this.
Biden approved more and more fracking projects and oil exctraction hit record rates. Just because NBC kept saying everything was okay now doesn't mean that it was, some of us were paying as much attention then as we did under Trump, unlike dems.
"MuH bOth SiDeS"
Ok, go on, show us the measurements
I honestly thought reddit was bad but the "both siders are evil" morons here are way worse.
Are you conflating corporatism and concentration camps because they start with the same letter or are you really this fucking stupid?
Concentration camps have been a thing for most of the US' existence, have become super widespread in recent decades (as in, the children in cages) and they're completely bipartisan. At one point, there were twice as many children detained under Biden than at Trump's highest.
You might not have known it until now (doubtful) but if I know democrats, you're gonna handwave it away even though you no longer have that excuse. Democrats are no more than the left wing of fascism and so is anyone who treats these abuses as irrelevant distractions from the real issues, that is, the comforts of white people.
You seem to have concluded with no evidence that I'm a Democrat. That's cute.
Ruining the planet for everyone is worse than anything else and on that issue both sides are the same
It'll be ruined much faster with the red party in control. I guess we are gonna speed run the decline thanks to people like you.
If the only options are to keep ruining the world at a steady pace or speed it up then we're cooked anyway (literally)
The irony of Biden approving more drilling and selling more protected land than any other president in history makes this comment so freaking funny.
Sure Trump is trying to best Biden on that front, but the fact that a Democrat already had that mantel at all and you have the nerve to comment this is just peak.
"the nerve"... You don't have to like it but trump is an accelerationist. It's not even debatable how much quicker the damage is and will keep being done. I think it's funny you have "the nerve" to even pretend otherwise.
You don't get it.
They are destroying the planet on top of all the other things.
If both parties are pro-ending the world then everything else is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic
Why didn't the "boring corporatists" shut down the concentration camps when they were in power?
It's because we have the Nazi party and the Nazi collaborator party. And somehow voting for the latter is just.