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ROUND 5: ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Saudi Arabia


FORMULA 1 STC SAUDI ARABIAN GRAND PRIX 2025


Circuit stats


  • First Grand Prix: 2021
  • Number of laps: 50
  • Circuit Length: 6.174 km
  • Race Distance: 308.45 km
  • Lap record: 1:30.734 Lewis Hamilton (2021)
  • 2024 winner: Max Verstappen

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[โ€“] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So like Max and Lando at COTAโ€ฆ

So literally what I said?

had he (Piastri) also gone off Max wouldnโ€™t have received a penalty.

Lando should've given his position back because if he believed Max was in the wrong (and because some people can't be normal I have to explicitly mention Max was in the wrong) then Max should get penalized. He didn't give the position back and got penalized himself. Same thing with Max. If Max believed Piastri left him no space then he should've given the position back because if Piastri was in the wrong he should get penalized. Max didn't give the position back and got penalized himself.

The sidenote wasn't about the exact same move that Max did in COTA, it was about the fact that Piastri did was Verstappen has done multiple times. Every time Verstappen does something like that people come out in droves to complain about the move. But now that it was Piastri you don't see 10 different commenters on what a scummy move it was, instead anyone critical of the move gets downvoted. My sidenote wasn't a defense of Max (nor is it an attack on Piastri because I don't have an issue with moves like that). It was a jab at all the Max haters who like to think they're being fair and standing against scummy moves when really they complain only when Max is the one making the move.

[โ€“] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Unlike Max though, they don't let off the brake pedal to be "side by side" they are genuinely there... This is another part of the equation that doesn't get factored in.

If Max doesn't let off the brakes, he doesn't even look in contention for the corner at all (clearly behind) but since he does let it off, he cannot make the corner. Choose 1 - make the corner or don't let off brakes.

[โ€“] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If that helps you sleep, go ahead and don't continue reading.

But if you look at how Piastri took the corner in the quali vs how he took it in the race it's pretty clear he deliberately ran wide. Why would he run wide and compromise the exit of T2 if he thought Max would never make the corner? Maybe his post race interview gives a hint, where he explicitly states "if it was roles reversed it probably would've looked identical". It's almost as if Piastri knew he couldn't leave Max any space because Max would make use of that space the same way he would've used that space if the roles were reversed and Max had left him space. I wonder who is more right? A random F1 viewer on Lemmy stating Max would've have made the corner, or Max (who decided to try to take the corner) and Piastri (who clearly cut him off to make sure he couldn't make the corner) thinking he would've made the corner. Definitely a tough choice here.

Oh and thank you for proving my point about how it's always Max's fault.

[โ€“] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The telemetry shows both of them rushed into the corner because they were both fighting to be first into the apex, that's the game. Max didn't slow down because Piastri didn't slow down. It was a great move by Piastri, why do you have to diminish it by not acknowledging what Piastri did. Does Verstappen live rent free in your mind that you have to make everything about Max?

[โ€“] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

Take a breath, get afk a bit mate, stop making this personal and keep it on the topic at hand.

Until next week!