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I would still take blocking progress to the left over concentration camps every time
So yeah, if you think bith sides are the same, then I guess it doesnt matter who won. We probably would be here with tarrifs and camps and a dictatorship, but just with Harris.
The concentration camps were there and expanded under Biden. The parties are not different on this, even if the Democrat-leaning media like to highlight it when Republicans are in office and minimize it when Democrats are in office.
You had concentration camps under Biden.
It will probably get through as me and my friends are in camps thinking that at least this would have happened with Harris anyways. Im sure she was all about getting rid of due process and shipping citizens to El Salvador.
But its cool. You guys are gonna have that revolution any day now. I hear theres all sorts of plans already.
Edit: In fact, lets just go back to the image
Dems block going left
Repubs ratchet to the right
So when the republicans dont have power, do the dems do it for them? I mean I know they dont do enough to stop them. No disagreements. But if we never elected a republican in office again, and they never had either of the 3 branches, and they didnt control any state, we would still be going right.
Im not asking would they still block us going left
But do you think we would stop progressing as a country?
Cause going through hundreds of years, theres actual quite a few things we actually have progressed with. Like look at us in the queer community. When I was graduating high school in 08, I thought we were still so much further out from same sex marriage. And then once people focused on trans people, I thought we were still even further out from the dems helping them.
But yet over time they did move forward. Dont Ask Dont Tell was still dog shit. But it was something. Then it became queer people were allowed in. Period.
So even just in my life and my community I have seen progress. Its slow. It is. Its painfully slow. But its progress
So if we never had republicans in power we would suddenly stop that? Am I wrong about my community slowly becoming more and more accepted over the decades?
Or does me just knowing my communities history and celebrating where we have gotten make me a liberal?
Literally admitting to wanting to keep or create concentration camps (as long as it doesn't affect you or your friends).. you and the other Team Blue libs are fucking neo-nazi psychos..
"Why do people call us Blue MAGA? We only want border cages and genocide when it's our team doing it!"
The person your replying to didn't say anything like that. Your just ranting for no fucking reason.
Was the first sentence of the person I'm replying to not enlightening enough, or does someone have to hand you the explanation on a silver platter?
We get it. Everyone you don't like is a nazi.
Or
Here me out
Its more like a trolly problem
But the difference is the one is going to die
You didnt stop it by not voting
We arent going to stop Israel either way
But
On one side you have more death.
"You only care about your community."
Im not Hispanic. I voted to try to keep this from happening to them.
Im not black. Theyre gonna ramp up slavery. I voted to at least help stop the Republicans from doing that
Women are going to due even more fron lack of Healthcare. Its not going to be states anymore. Its going to be federal.
Im not on Medicare or medicade. If those go, thats millions more..
Food stamps. People are gonna starve
Social Security. When people are too old to work but can't afford rent, even more deaths
Farmers. Did you know that the last time Trump was president and they had to bail out farmers with our tax dollars, that money mostly went to corporate farms who then used that money to buy the land from farmers who were losing their farms and that this leads to hundreds if not thousands of farmers commiting suicide?
Do I love the democrats? No. Despite the no true Scotsman arguments, I dont like capitalism. Im pretty fucking against it.
But its amazing how many people are telling me Im only for my group. All of these groups are even more fucked than before.
Harm. Reduction.
I dont like meth or heroine. Ive seen the damage it does to people. Ive lost friends to it. But I also realize that just making it illegal has done nothing. Instead we need to take steps to help whole get off it. We need to do things like legalize it.
"So you love it!"
No. You legalize it, but then you also get places for people to get help. You dont just lock them up in prison and then set them free years later.
Voting isnt the only step. Its one step. Its harm reduction. It took me 1 out of 1,461 days to vote. That still leaves 1,460 days to do anything and everything else.
If dems stop progress but they arent the ones ratcheting, then a good step is to get rid of the ones ratcheting.
Its not the final step. Its a step.
You reduce the harm being done as you work for the final goal
But sure. Lets say I only care about my community and I votes to help only save us
That means you dont.
You dont care about any of these groups.
Wait, let me guess: youre gonna help save them in the revolution
After millions are dead
Are you getting prepared? Have you been practicing at the range? Are you in a militia? Are you ready to kill? Cause the 4th reich is here. Theres not really many other options. Especially if they make protesting illegal like the Republicans said. Trump said hes going after home grown next. You go to a protest in another year and you will likely be in the camps.
Or is the revolution like the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ where we just hear about it? Cause if you wont even try to just slow it down with 1 day, then how can I trust you with the rest?
When you see us begging people to vote to help save all of us and you talk shit, how am I supposed to beleive you wont talk shit as we get rounded up?
Its hard to fight for Palestine when I have to worry about the fact that my trans brothers and sisters are losing their passports, meaning they wont even be able to leave the country.
That's interesting, given that you were declaring yourself the universal spokesman of marginalized groups elsewhere.
I'm going to have to stop reading from here, I skimmed through 5 times anyways and couldn't get any semblance of a coherent point. Clearly you don't actually care about the marginalized groups you speak of, otherwise you would've understood why nobody takes your Western "democracy" seriously, you just continue to come off as the "I can't be a genocide-loving Islamophobe, I have an Arab friend" type (or similar).
No amount of pearl clutching will wash away your depravity.
It would have, just not to you and your friends, which is all you care about.
Actually my community, the black community, Jewish people, Native Americans. All of us turned out for Harris. We also voted to try and stop the republicans from rounding Hispanic people as well.
Its amazing how Im hearing that I only care about my community when its yall telling the marginalized communities we are wrong. That we are all the liberals who are to blame for all of this.
All of you? I didn't realise that minority groups were one undifferentiated mass and not individuals. I'm glad that you, the spokesperson for blacks, Jews, and native Americans, has set me straight.
Your daily reminder that blueMAGA liberals don't consider Palestinians human.
If you look at marginalized communities and ignore us because "Well not all agree", when shit like 82% do, then just say you dont want to listen to us. And you try to call me out for speaking for those other communities while also saying theyre shit libs and dont listen to them either.
Once again proving my point.
And this is why communities are about to become more insular. Cause if yall hate us, then fuck it. Do it. Im just glad that this last year has finally shown that all this talk about supporting minorities hasn't meant shit. And I can guarantee you I have heard more than enough people saying that same things.
So were you summoned in a ritual of some kind, Mr avatar, or do you form out of the aether? I’m curious how the entire collective will of all members of marginalized groups became merged in one obnoxious .world poster.
You still haven’t revealed if Palestinians are part of your collective hive Mind, but I’m getting the feeling they aren’t
Both sides aren’t the same.
Republicans are much better at getting things done and winning elections.
Nobody's debating this. What are you going on about.
Which part?
The part about both sides? Well if both sides arent the same then maybe we should do harm reduction, which is a term I tend to hear more so in leftist spaces, and go with the dems.
Decades of mindless "harm reduction" got you where you are.
Well if marginalized communities are the cause of our own downfall then I guess you can sleep soundly knowing you did what you could to save us.
I didn't realise I was talking to the incarnate avatar of "marginalised community". Are Palestinians included in your metaphysical essence?
Are the Ukrainians included in yours?
Least incoherent shitlib
So you only care about them. Got it.
Funny how yall claim to be against the genocide but youre very vocal about not caring about us as we keep saying the shit we go through is happening. But its cool, because you only heard jt from me and never listen to the communities as a whole, so you can ignore the rest.
I just think its swell that leftist is now cisgender heternormative and white.
81% of black people went Harris, 14 Trump. So roughly 5% of black people
I cant find a source, but it was roughly the same. Went more for trump by a small percentage.
So if we get rid of everyone who voted Trump(obviously) and everyone who votes dem, then that means theres not many leftists in these communities
As I keep saying
If we are liberal for voting dem, then theres not as many leftists as yall thing. And you have now lost the majority of these communities
But sure. Yall have fun. As I said, I think more and more of us are gonna be insulated. If me trying to take at least 1 extra step to stop my community from being in the 4th reich makes me liberal, then Im a liberal. I'll continue to speak out against capitalism, but if yall dont want our help, then have fun.
You're lying through your teeth to try and justify your "I am the avatar of all minorities" bullshit: the majority of non-whites didn't vote at all
How about the majority who didn't vote for Harris? You just going to "get rid of them" as well?
"Us". You've literally admitted you aren't black elsewhere, you ghoul.
You already are, genocide apologist.
So far all you've done is support liberal genocide while pretending to be the spokesperson of minorities. You are the prototypical capitalist.
So were you summoned in a ritual of some kind, Mr avatar, or do you form out of the aether? I'm curious how the entire collective will of all members of marginalised groups became merged in one obnoxious .world poster.
You still haven't revealed if Palestinians are part of your collective hive Mind, but I'm getting the feeling they aren't
Yet youre put here speaking for leftists.
Jfs almsot as if you guys keep proving my point.
And I think the Palestinains were probably a bit busy at the moment.
"And you supported their genocide!"
No. You have no issue with ours though. You keep projecting that onto us. But if both sides are going to commit the genocide, then I have the option of voting for genocide or not voting and still genocide. But I at least decided to try and stop more genocide at home. And you keep telling me leftists dont care about that.
So were you summoned in a ritual of some kind, Mr avatar, or do you form out of the aether? I’m curious how the entire collective will of all members of marginalised groups became merged in one obnoxious .world poster.
You still haven’t revealed if Palestinians are part of your collective hive Mind, but I’m getting the feeling they aren’t