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That’d be cool, but it does sound more like something for Lemmy, or a 3rd part tool for Lemmy, to handle than Voyager (Voyager doesn't have a backend db).
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On your point about this being “a core part of helping to safeguard the Fediverse for the future,” I’d actually argue that defederation is more effective than something like Bluesky-style blocklists when it comes to addressing abuse and misinformation.
Defederation has two key effects:
It’s one of the reasons I’m so optimistic on the Fediverse. Defederation, in my opinion, is the most effective tool for tackling misinformation—specifically because of that indirect pressure it creates.
And there are even projects created organically to deal with the hierarchy of instance reputation and federation like Fediseer.
All that being said. I still think blocklists could have a role within Lemmy for some individual users who want to fine-tune their experience, but for the bigger problems—like misinformation and bot spam—I think defederation (and the threat of it) is a better, more effective solution.
Thank you for your reply! That makes sense that it would be more the wider Lemmy to look into it.
Thank you for clarifying this, I was not aware that the Fediverse put pressure on instances to moderate or risk defederation, but that does make sense.
My worry was long term risks for Federated spaces such as if bad actors climbed up to admin or moderator roles, which I have seen happen on Reddit even for big name subs. Although in those cases, it doesn’t guarantee that block/mute lists would be helpful. Your comment does give me hope though since even if one of the bigger instances was taken hold of by bad actors, it could be defederated by the rest and other new instances could take its place which are not operated by bad actors.
I agree that defederation is a powerful tool. I don’t think those outside of Lemmy know a lot about this yet as an added benefit of the Fediverse system. I had a difficult time articulating just how Lemmy and the Fediverse was a better long term system compared to Reddit since I really liked the block/mute list idea from BlurSky which was not on Lemmy. But your comment really puts it into perspective of how we can keep this space thriving.