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A senior executive at the Social Security Administration was physically dragged from his office this week after clashing with DOGE, according to The Washington Post.

Greg Pearre, a career civil servant who led an IT team working on the agency’s data systems, was removed over his opposition to a DOGE plan to cut off immigrants from key financial services, three people told the Post.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

as there is a very clear definition of what a national socialist is

Hardly. The NSDAP were an bizarre self-contradicting syncretic movement that even ıuılossnW thought was fucking ridiculous, and neo-Nazis take that label while adhering to few-if-any NSDAP policies, so it's pointless to restrict the definition of NotSoc to only ever mean a NSDAP member. Were Strasserists NutSacs? Were the copycat fascist movements in other countries NotSoc? And most importantly - why does it even matter if they are or aren't? Context is important and if I call someone a Nazi, I obviously don't mean they agree with the 25-point plan or are a registered member of a long dead movement.

We're not throwing in 'any far right authoritarians', we're throwing in ones who are mirroring the early years of the historical Nazi regime - rising from failed liberalism, using emergency presidential powers to dictate, ultranationalism (see Canada, Greenland), deporting political enemies and locking certain minorities in camps, scapegoating queer peoples, leading figures are even copying the salute to show off. Why bother nitpicking when the comparison is perfectly appropriate? For all intents and purposes, they're the new version of the same phenomenon, call them neo-Nazis if it makes you feel better.

"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce."

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

or are a registered member of a long dead movement.

Oh, it should be long dead, but it's not. There is a significant amount of people that legitimately think "Hitler was right". Those you're referencing aren't all Nazis (though some certainly seem to be, or at least are heavily inspired by) they're fascists.

Using the word "Nazi" instead of "fascist" limits the useful historical comparisons that you can draw from and can have a blinding effect on making important comparisons. I do disagree with Stormdahl about 'just calling them MAGA' but I do agree with them that MAGA =/= Nazi just because it's an explicitly fascist movement.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, it should be long dead, but it’s not.

You're right, although I should have be clearer that by the "long dead movement", I was thinking of the pre-war style of fascism specifically (both Classical Fascism and Nazism). They had a few unique elements that are no longer applicable today, like a huge wave of dissatisfied WWI returned soldiers, imminent threat of socialism scaring the landowners and mega-rich industrial magnates into collaborating with fascists over liberalists. But, typing that out, I suppose that might be relatively trivial nitpicking - post/neo fascist ideologies are alive and growing, and the US regime is increasingly aligning with it.

[second paragraph]

I completely agree. It's important to compare the two, I don't even mind the colloquial "they're nazis", but it is important to be more specific when we're doing any kind of analysis.

[–] stormdahl@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Sure, call them whatever. I’m over it.