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Trump admin considering giving $10,000 to each person in Greenland to annex the island (www.latintimes.com)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The plan would replace the $600 million in subsidies Denmark gives the island each year

The Donald Trump administration is reportedly considering giving about $10,000 to each Greenland resident as part of its plan to annex the island.

The possibility would seek to replace the $600 million Denmark gives the territory in subsidies every year, and has stopped being mere rhetoric to become official U.S. policy, according to The New York Times.

The outlet detailed that the plan already includes several cabinet departments and that the White House's National Security Council has met several times to advance on it, recently sending specific instructions to different offices.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Yes Greenland wants to be independent under the terms that Denmark continue to pay huge regional subsidies of more than 10k USD per capita per year. On top of paying for official functions like police and defense. While still being tax exempt.

They don't want to pay for any of that themselves.

Apparently the only thing that keeps Greenland part of Denmark is money.
And AFAIK Denmark gets nothing in return.

If this support for more than a hundred years, doesn't make Greenlanders feel as if they are part of Denmark, then I don't see why we should keep supporting them.

Yes we made mistakes in the past, but good luck finding someone else to support you, that display greater respect for the autonomy of Greenland.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, obviously they wouldn't get the subsidies anymore, I thought that was implied in gaining independence

Either way, they should still have the right to decide themselves

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I thought that was implied in gaining independence

One should think that is a given, but that's not how the people of Greenland see it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, in that case I do agree with you. If they gain independence, the subsidies should stop. I mean, that's only natural

And yes, I don't think it would be a wise choice for greenland to do, but ultimately they should still have that choice, otherwise it's just a glorified colony

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

all of these fucking upvotes with no fucking context.

A new poll shows that 84% of Greenlanders want their homeland to be independent from Denmark. Yet almost half, 45%, say they only want it if it does not have a negative impact on their standard of living.

twist that shit all you want, just seems like you're a Denmark nationalist with your comments. You're whole fucking comment reeks

"we made mistakes in the past... good luck finding someone else to support you"

like a fucking toxic relationship with an abuser, holy shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My comment is not based on opinion polls. But on the political negotiations as they have been represented.

like a fucking toxic relationship with an abuser, holy shit.

I'm not aware of any other example where a territory with an original population is treated with more respect and more reasonably than Denmark is doing with Greenland, including having representation in the Danish parlament. I'm all for that. And Greenland can have independence, but when they want us to keep paying after that, how is that reasonable?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's not the money as such but Greenland not being ready for full independence. They don't want independence to leave them worse off, poorer, as a playing ball of larger powers, etc.

Basically Greenland is a 30yold guy living with their parents figuring out how to get their own place. They aren't thrilled about the situation, but the parents are tolerable and it definitely beats being homeless.

Denmark gets a friend out of this, and a good conscience. Also, business opportunities. Applies to Europe in general, I very much doubt Greenland will go for independence without joining the EU. Not only would it provide safety, but it also means sovereignty while still being able to draw on cohesion funds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I very much doubt Greenland will go for independence without joining the EU.

Greenland actively chose NOT to be part of EU!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_and_the_European_Union

after gaining autonomy in 1979 with the introduction of home rule within the Kingdom of Denmark, Greenland voted to leave in 1982 and left in 1985

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Support for re-joining increased form 40% to 60% from 2021 to 2024.

Main stumbling block has always been the fisheries policy, same with Norway, Iceland and the Faroer, and while truth be told the CFP really needs reform it also has lost much economical importance for the countries. Well maybe except the Faroer.

Greenlanders and Faroese are still EU citizens, btw, by virtue of being Danish citizens, with all the privileges that entails. That kind of special status won't be possible upon independence, it's going to be all-in or all-out. Ask Brits how losing EU citizenship feels like.