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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In England there's two flags, a flag for if you're racist (English flag, except if there's a major sporting event), and the British flag for if you're proud of your country in a non racist way

Does it work the same way in the more reasonable US states with the state vs national flag?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Let's be honest here. Basically no one that's English is actually proud of their country in a non-racist way.

We have two flags. The union jack which is xenophobia lite, and the English flag for full-fat racism.

The US is pretty similar in that they have their US flag for the xenophobia lite and then the Confederate flag for the deep fried racism.

The Confederate flag is worse in that ultimately the Confederate was only ever about racism and slavery, and no sports teams use it so when ever you see it, it's always about racism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Barely anyone uses state flags, unless its hung right next to a national flag. No-one really cares about them honestly, at least where I'm from. Conservatives are more likely to use the national flag, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone with just the state flag.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

I can understand that if you're from a seal-on-bedsheet state, but I'd figure especially at the moment democrats in Maryland, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado (I definitely saw a lot of state flags alone in Denver), California, Hawaii etc. have a lot of reasons to prefer their actually nice flags

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not really, no. The problem is that the flag is the symbol of the country, above anything and everything else. All we have are a piece of paper (the Constitution) and a piece of cloth (the flag) to unite us, so they've both, historically, been extremely central to US identity.

The best I could offer is that you 'average' American doesn't own an American flag, though they might own something with the design of the flag on it. If you see an American flag flying on a pole outside of someone's house - especially one in tatters - that's generally a bad sign. If someone has a flag hanging on the wall inside the house - especially in accordance with the flag code - that's usually not a bad sign. At least in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

And it's fair to say that if you're flying a flag on a car then they're probably also conservatives