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I don't understand misogyny at all. What's it all about? If you were homosexual and were raised in an ancient Macedonian army or something perhaps you wouldn't see a mother, sisters, daughters, lovers, work colleagues, neighbors, friends but who lives like that? Boys who live in front of a screen and are too anxious and scared to go outside? Racism I can kind of understand if you only have superficial knowledge of other people and cultures.
Once that testosterone kicks in at puberty women aren't generally a physical threat to men. I don't really understand all the fear of them. Some women are really, really cool. Like serious friend material and lifelong partner stuff.
A woman is absolutely a threat to another human. Any animal that size is. That you think women are harmless is ironically, misogyny.
There's a couple of.good books about this - Delusions of Gender by Fine and Sex, Lies, and Brain Scans. Basically we have implicit and explicit biases in how we expect people to perform roles. However, these biases aren't based in fact. When we police other people's behaviors based on these biases, or otherwise force others into roles we've developed, it's bad/abusive.
Women are a special type of role, because that role generally means they have babies (ofc we all know many women who don't have babies). The ownership of their baby making ability is likely why men created the patriarchy, to endanger women by other men, to force women into proximity of whatever man was able to support them. This, and the narrative that men should fuck as soon as they feel any sexual urges because that's "being a man," form the basis for their abuse of women over thousands of years.
Imagine how damaged all our mitochondrial DNA is from our mothers because of this, generations of trauma. And further, the eggs that made up YOU, were inside your mom as a baby, when she was inside HER mom. Meaning your grandma's stress during and before pregnancy with your mom, had a direct impact on you as an egg. And further further, you get 100% of your cells from your mother, and 50% of your DNA. But every cell of life in your body came from your mother. Her stress and abuse has caused damage to the human condition imo and it is therefore vital to treat women well even if you only care about men.
And a key piece of taking good care of humans, is freedom and bodily autonomy, which form the basis for respect in most animal species.
Which is why misogyny hates all of that and why misogynists also tend to like hurting animals too.
Honestly, this argument comes across to me as a horrible mangling of different pop-sci concepts to construct a victimology. There's good evidence of the mechanism by which stress and trauma induce epigenetic changes in organisms. (Selective methylization regulating expression of genes.) There's some evidence of epigenetic changes due to physiological trauma passed down through germ cells. But it's a huge leap to ascribe mtDNA damage to psychological experiences.
The mitochondria have a degenerate genome, a tiny amount of DNA with (looking it up) 37 genes to support the processing of energy into ATP to power the cell. It is susceptible to epigenetic changes, which leads pretty directly to a number of metabolic disorders, but I can't find any evidence that those changes result from life experiences of an animal. The idea that mtDNA has accumulated generations of damage from sexist trauma beggars logic, too, because there's just not a lot of room to collect damage, and that damage leads to health problems fairly directly. If one got every cell of life from one's mother, in turn, she got it from her mother, and so on all the way back to the first eukaryotic life. All of those generations of trauma, how are we even still living?
Furthermore, the assertion that "men created the patriarchy" ignores actual history and context. One simply cannot ascribe a singular intent to a class comprising billions of individuals across time and space. At best, one could describe patriarchy as an emergent phenomena of societies and cultures. About half of the individuals in those societies and cultures were women, so you'd have to conclude that women helped create patriarchy, unless you deny their agency or intelligence.
Puh what a rant.
I actually just want to correct you on one thing and I am also Not sure what you really meant.
But we dont get 100% of our cells from our mothers. We get the mitochondria from our mothers. The cells that enclose those mitochondria are perfectly 50/50 after fertilisation.
Maybe they mean literally the body composition of a fetus when it starts to grow as it feeds off via placenta, like it literally gets 100% of the mass from the mother's organism
Yes all people are potentially dangerous.
But the biomechanics in adults are very different and need to be recognised. Statistically the physical intimidation is mostly one way when you account for sexual dimorphism in height, weight, reach, muscle mass etc. There are always exceptions but women live in a very different threat environment. That isn't misogyny.
If people tend to hate what they fear and mysogyny is literally hatred of women like what the fuck? Perhaps some men are terrified of emotional harm. I can understand that but perhaps they would be better off with some therapy or a bit of self awareness.
Maybe, but unfortunately some abusive men just become better at abuse, more sophisticated, when they do therapy because of how therapy can work in validating people. It's actually not super recommended for a woman dating an abusive man to go to couples therapy or have him go to therapy for this reason. The only way for these men to change their mind, is if they are in groups with other men who enforce other views via discussion, OR if they choose to. The reason you can't medically treat a narcissist is because it would be brainwashing and unethical to do so if it was possible.
Yes, many cix XY men who are testosterone dominant are taller and have greater arm strength and bone density than many cis XX estrogen dominant women. Not every man and woman fit the cis body ideal of an XX and XY with "perfect" proportions of estrogen, progesterone, GH, testosterone, SHGB, and various other angrogens and enzymes that all combine and compete to create a physical phenotype we call a "woman" or "man." There are also physical disabilities too.
But look at Stephen Hawking. If we go off pure Oppression Olympics (without looking instead through intersectionality and abuse dynamics), then the girls he was sexually abusing with Epstein were arguably abusing him. They were able bodied, right? He could hardly speak. It's not just about physical ability then, but about how the entire structure of the patriarchy now being so entrenched we automatically assume roles based on it, regardless of size or proximity to danger. We automatically dismiss the danger of those girls to Hawking because we know the patriarchy stops girls from being violent, it's not their role.
Except in cases like Chrystul Kizer.
Look. My mother gave me more than enough trauma as a kid. I don't need you telling me she started before SHE was even born.
Power to control women and force them to have sex with you. A bit like rape, but less crude.