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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (30 children)

Explanation: The borders of the states of Palestine and Israel were drawn by a UN committee a few years after WW2. It was the great hope that, whatever the issues of the past, rational discussion and neutral arbitration could resolve future problems without war and without bloodshed.

It, uh, satisfied neither party, immediately started a shooting war, and we're still riding this atrocity carousel to this day.

In the UN's defense, at that point, tensions were so high and everything so utterly fucked by the past ~25 years that there was probably no division they could've offered that would've gotten both parties to lay down their arms.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In the UN's defense, at that point, tensions were so high and everything so utterly fucked by the past ~25 years that there was probably no division they could've offered that would've gotten both parties to lay down their arms.

In the UN's not-defense, neither side wanted a division in the first place (the Zionist side was very clear they intended to take over all of Palestine no matter what the partition plan said) and both were pretty vocal about it. The Palestinians more so, but still.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, but "I'm going to pick one of you to be the total winner" is pretty much a non-starter as far as diplomatic solutions go, whereas "Everyone is going to end up disappointed" sometimes works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Zero state solution. Y'all couldn't behave, now nobody gets it.

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