So your reply to... 20 links, is to complain that someone is documenting well ("obsessed") and then make one claim against the entire instance with one supporting link?

I have a massive problem with .world. There's a reason I'm not on it. But the .world liberal problem doesn't undo the .ml tankie problem. Two things can be true.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

20 links linking to his own posts. At least the first 3 did.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Those three links were posts of screenshots of mod actions? If I was doing a big, hyperfocus-style, documenting-things kind of thing, I wouldn't link directly to the modlog for a lot of reasons. I'd link to a screenshot of the modlog. That way, people can see the thing I want to point out, and then if they want, go verify that it's in the modlog.

Normally I wouldn't wade into this obvious shitshow, but I have a massive pet peeve of a person dismissing another person's argument with, "There's too much evidence." I get not wanting to comment individually on each and every thing they posted, who has the time, but for "I don't want to engage with all this content," there's the option of not commenting at all. Telling someone that their point is invalid because they have too much content is really really really frustrating for me. That might be my neurodivergence but...

But, "your point is wrong because there's too much evidence and I don't wanna read it" isn't a counterargument to the original point being made. And making a counterpoint of, "but here's MY argument and MY evidence and I want you to engage with THAT" is... not what good faith debate should look like. If you can't be bothered to engage with the original point being made, using it to pivot a discussion to your own point is... rude.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They have no evidence. They link questions to Liberals who ask rhetorical questions, such as "how can anyone in good faith support China and Russia" and then paste generic propaganda their post which all apply to America a thousand times more.

These are deeply unserious people who do nothing but concern troll on asklemmy. Spouting nonsense and putting a question mark after it.

And likely alt accounts of cm002 as he always complains about Hexbear and Lemmygrad while we cannot even see their posts on .world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have to say, I read your comment, then went back and actually looked at the first three links they posted. None were rhetorical questions. Are you looking at something somewhere else that I'm not aware of?

But it doesn't... Like I'm not actually interested in your fight. I just have a massive pet peeve about someone coming in, seeing a wall of links called 'evidence,' and choosing to ignore all that to start a different fight.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago

I clicked one at random. You read all the links with evidence right? You love link spam apparently and think it is enough to win any argument.

It is in their list. Good luck finding it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok and where is your linked evidence?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.world/comment/16040116

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Looks like the issue was with the source and the comm you posted it in (worldnews is for articles not comics)

And it was expressly stated if you uploaded the comics to an appropriate comm without the tainted controversial source it would be perfectly fine. Have you tried uploading them to [email protected] ? Was it removed from there?

In any case, JordanLund is not an admin so worst case they'd just be a rogue mod, my evidence directly points to admin (e.g. dessalines and davel) censorship, mandates and propaganda pushing which is far worse. It speaks directly to the Tankie agenda they're using their instance for

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Please read the linked comment and down from there. For more context on why the specific site is brought up read up slightly.

Also please state whether you believe the comics are antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Please read the linked comment and down from there. For more context on why the specific site is brought up read up slightly.

Still, it's a bad moderation decision, not nearly as bad as having instance admins actively push a narrative and their personal political agenda like what is going on with .ml

Also please state whether you believe the comics are antisemitic.

I do not, from what I've seen they're rightfully critical of the Israeli government and it's policies and mere criticism of a religion is not anti-Semitic and in fact all religions should be openly criticized

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

cm002, I have no dog in this fight, and lemme say, I love having no dog in this fight.

But if someone tells you that you have too much evidence and they aren't going to engage with it, and then instead pivots to trying to force you to engage with their points, and devolves to "please state whether you believe the comics are antisemitic..." This is just a suspicion, and I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're not engaging you in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Eh maybe maybe not, sometimes it's an opportunity to get them to spill more that others will see than they might have. That's why I did my best to ensure to keep calling back to the real point, .ml's crap

As far as the whole comic thing goes, that's genuine, fuck the Israeli government and trying to conflate any and all criticism against them as "anti-Semitism"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Again, this is another perfect example to my earlier point that the majority of people whining about .world go there to stir the pot, violate the rules, get their shit removed, and then misinform the reasons. It tracks right along with their political ideology.

Modlog for reference.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can stop defending Israel here. Read the post I linked and respond to it if you dare.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I hope everyone can see from this what I mean. These bots are programmed to side-step any factual accusation pointed at them and attack the accuser with false rhetoric.

Doing this is supposed to derail and distract from the fact that they have been proven to be what they’re accused of, and instead to put the accuser on a defensive.

Then they go after everyone else in other instances and communities, and cry about how they are censored and biased against.

Recognize this for what it is- and don’t let them do this.

Modlog for reference.

Call it out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Another generic strawman trying to sidestep the issue. Every accusation is a confession for Zionists.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

The irony.