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I was recently in Europe. It's not even about health. Guys, stop it, you smell like shit.
Ah yes Europe, the mythical country.
Europe is a geological region where most countries share a lot of cultural ties with each other, including the smoking culture.
And my mom
Likely, if she weights <70kg and her name is not Karen 😂😂
Potentially, they could have visited multiple countries. Or maybe they don't want to partially doxx themselves.
Are you seriously trying to argue that "europeans" isn't a valid characterization of a group of people with some common traits, you absolute muppet?
As someone you would call “European” there are massive cultural, behavioural and religious differences in Europe.
Not the differences you imagine like NJ vs California vs Texas, much more
And you know what? It’s a good thing and nobody wants to change that. After centuries we even stopped having fun at each other.
Diversity is scientifically and provably good for creativity that in turn is good for everything humans do
In the case of smoking, you can go to an extreme (Berlin) where people smoke in the clubs (even if it is forbidden) to another extreme (Dublin) that is pretty much like US
While I agree with most of what you said, I think you are underestimating the huge cultural differences between NJ, CA, and TX. They very much feel like entirely different countries. Very big differences in culture, linguistics, religion, etc.
USA -> States is very similar to EU -> member countries. I understand that within the EU, member countries have their own concept of "states" that are very similar to the US, but I don't believe most EU countries prioritize local regions over their country as much as the US does. Keep in mind, Europe as a whole is only slightly bigger than the USA (10m sq k vs 9m sq k)
For instance, someone from Texas self-identifies as a Texan first, and then an American second. It's why one of the first things an American asks when meeting a new American is "where are you from". The state they're from will (usually but not always) tell you a lot about them, their priorities, what their culture is, etc.
Personally I think it's stupid (I'm not a big fan of "states rights"), but I'm very much in the minority in that.
Dude, Texans fucking hate Californians and and East Coasters.
They share the same citizenship and language but they almost certainly hate each other more than a typical European country hates it's neighbors because of core value differences.
UK+EU members might hate each other for historical reasons but generally they all hold similar core values. Good ones BTW. Democracy is good.
I live in the midwestern US and if I could I'd have it's culture swallowed up by the east coast's culture (except maybe the food) because its pretty fucking boring and backwards in many respects anyway. The only reason I still live here is because I'm poor but I kind of hate midwestern culture.
Diversity is good, smoking is bad. So are Texas's anti-abortion and anti-trans bills, which is fueled by Texas's reactionary culture which diverges from Cali and NJ. Including unhealthy or even straight up death cult ideas as a form of "diversity" seems... ill advised.
My point is, sometimes things are just bad and serve no beneficial purpose and can't be justified on the basis of "diversity". Smoking culture is one.
Did I say all of Europe is the same? Or did I say Europeans have some common traits? Get a grip.
Maybe y'all Americans all have the same commodified culture managed by a hedge funds but in Europe, every country has a rich culture and its own identity+way of life.
I don't get the same vibe at all from France and Germany or the Netherlands. I see similarities and a common history which makes the cultural ramification even more telling and insightful
Not American. Try again without the chip on your shoulder.
What are the common traits of someone from Finland and one from Greece?
They both have a higher percentage of smokers than the US.
Finland 20.7%, USA 23.6%, according to world population review.com and one of the few sources I could find that mentions both the USA and finland. So you're wrong there. (Globalactiontoendsmoking.org has similar numbers, btw)
Also, you said traits. Plural. But yeah, easier to make up shit and pretend you're right and then stop replying when proven wrong than just be mature and say "my bad".
Whoops. I pulled a statistic from 2009. Anyway, here's another one: they both love public baths. Do you really think you'll come out on top while arguing Finland and Greece have zero common traits? Do you realize how insane that is?
Saunas are popular in Finland, true. Not so much in Greece. And the Hellenic/Roman public baths, which are quite different from saunas, btw, haven't actually remained popular in modern Greece nor Italy.
I never said they have zero common traits, but not enough for us to be one big culture or anything close to that. Common traits you can find between Norway and Zimbabwe. Or USA and Japan. Or Nepal and Argentina. Saying "europeans do x" is like saying "Asians do x" or "black people do y". That's what's insane... That you somehow fail to see that. I was recently in Thailand. I guess I know what Asians are like now. AmA!
You implied there were zero common traits when you asked me to list them. Don't try to weasel your way out of it because you were wrong. Here's another common trait between them: they're both part of a geopolitical block of countries that has been trading culture for more than a thousand years. So yes, there's bound to be some similarities and suggesting otherwise is asinine. One more thing: comparing "Europeans" and "Asians" as groups to "black people" is very racist.
I didn't imply anything. You inferred all that without asking for clarification. Yes, most neighbouring countries will have common traits. Never claimed otherwise. I just disagree with the monolithic usage of "Europeans" and I just wanted to see what someone that referred to all Europeans as one group thought we had as a common trait. And after 4 comments of pretending to know shit, I got my answer. Thanks. Back to what I said before : deflect, pretend you're right, never admit you're wrong.
This is the second comment where you said you didn't claim something you claimed one comment ago.
Oh, the irony.
Do you even know the meaning of the word claim? I just told you that me asking you to tell me what the common traits are is not me claiming anything. And j even admitted that yes, neighbouring countries usually share common traits. Sometimes even countries that are not neighbouring, such as USA and Japan, I've also said that before.
But sure. Or maybe I'm missing something, so yes, please, do show me where exactly I claimed that there are no common traits. And what's the other thing? Can you also point to that second thing I've apparently xlaimed, please.
So you were just curious about common traits between Greece and Finland and weren't trying to make any kind of point? Silly me. You've done so much backpedalling I can't even see you anymore.
Nope, I just wanted to see if you had a point or not. Unlike you, I'm willing to change my mind when provided with good and not made up arguments.
Nope, you wanted to be pedantic and it blew up in your face so you started to backpedal.
Yep, you're right. Keep pretending you've provided actual arguments and not made up bullshit.
No need for your approval. I always knew I was right.
Yeah, that's how you people usually are :) you always "know" stuff. So much stuff, tremendous stuff.
Haven't you made enough of a fool out of yourself?
I'm not the one claiming a large group of people are all stinky and refusing to elaborate. If anyone is a fool, it's you. You've insulted over 700million people based on your extremely limited interaction with a few hundreds, at best. But sure, I'm a fool. I'm done here.
You were done like 10 comments above, stinky boy.
Yep, keep talking in those stinky languages, Mr Mayan.
Hahaha. There it is.
For a vape go in a 5km radius of a school.
At least it is organic and not biohazard like US🤣😂
Second hand smoke isn't a biohazard? It literally causes cancer...
It increases the risk of getting cancer! Your sentence implies that you get it each time you are exposed. However, there is a subtle difference between being really attacked by a lion or being in the territory of a lion. In the first case you are highly likely done, in the second you have a chance to get out complete and healthy. And also: when and how are often two important questions.
Why I am saying this: I knew two guys in my family, who smoked from young like chimneys. They died old (>90) and not due to lung cancer! But perhaps in their times (50-90) the cigarettes were less toxic, who knows 🤷♂️
Do you truly believe that?