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Trump has rejected the EU's "zero-for-zero" tariff offer on cars and industrial goods, demanding instead that the bloc commit to purchasing $350 billion of American energy to offset the trade deficit.

Following his implementation of 20% tariffs on EU goods last week, which triggered significant market downturns, Trump indicated openness to negotiations while emphasizing his "America First" stance.

He also criticized EU product standards as "non-monetary barriers" designed to block American exports.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (27 children)

Nah. They have been preparing for this for years. There are ready to use replacement for most of the really important pieces of software. This would be the big push that was always needed to get technological independence from the US.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (18 children)

Horse shit to be frank. Aws and google cloud are huge and companies move slowly, if the top 100 euro companies decided to all get off these platforms now it would take months and months of unplanned intense effort and money

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

it would take months and months of unplanned intense effort and money

You know how much it costs EU taxpayers and customers to pay for the usage and licensing of US tech? Its absolutely absurd and most companies here are fed up with it. They will take any good alternative if its presented to them in a trustworthy manner.

The move to cloud based stuff was mostly vibes and marketing based. On prem has been shown to be cheaper, more reliable, more secure, more flexible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If its so expensive, why doesn't European companies make more competitive alternatives?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They are, but have you tried convincing people to use lemmy? Its the same problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd imagine american cloud services are actually cheaper (because they are so scaled up or whatever), that's why everyone uses them. So I don't know where the argument comes from that they are expensive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

These companies dont treat commercial customers any better than normal users. They undergo the same process of:

lower prices to get customers > buy up competition > lobby politcians to protect their grift > raise prices and lower service quality as much as possible without losing the customer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

but has it happened yet? if yes, then why are we still using american stuff? i just don't buy it.

here is an example: uber was very popular in europe, but they started twisting the knife with prices. alternatives popped up, uber is not so popular anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You cant run Uber in the EU in the same way they do in the US, because we have actual labor laws. The laws for the digital tech sector have simply not caught up with the pace of the industry, thats why they are so easily exploitable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Now you're just arguing with an example I brought up on the fly, not my actual point. Well, whatever..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

They do, but the U.S. companies have vendor lock-in and a choke hold on the market.

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