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    [–] [email protected] 157 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    I hope more hardware manufactures offer to ship without a windows license. It is cheaper for everyone and people have less hassle installing an OS of their choice on the device.

    [–] [email protected] 77 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I'm pretty sure that Microsoft pays OEMs for having Windows pre installed just like any other adware.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    That would be wasting their market position.
    If vendors can expect say 10% of people to choose a non-windows option it would suffice for microsoft to offer a 20% discount in return for the vendor not offering such an option.

    10% might actually be a bit low, there are a lot of people willing to install windows themselves and use one of the comically easy unlock methods.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

    Wasting their market position? That's literally how this works in the first place.

    And you overestimate the percentage of people that are willing to not have a pleasant ootb experience.

    [–] [email protected] 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    If the operating system is FOSS, I'd be willing to pay 50% the cost of a Windows license but to the FOSS maintainers and the upstream distros they rely on. Gotta close the causal loop.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

    Yeah, I'd do this if it shipped "ready to play."

    I'm more than capable of setting up my own system but it'd need to be plug and play to be realistic.

    [–] [email protected] 45 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I saved around 100€ on my laptop by requesting the FreeDOS model, the option still exists

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    That’s super-interesting! Could you share some details?

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Some retailers give the option to have no OS installed and with a Windows key, I bought the device when I started switching to Linux and installed a windows partition without activation key. Eventually, I deleted the windows partition as I didn't use it

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Bro, you're being asked where, not how.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

    In the terminal obviously ;)

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago

    oh, how times have changed, I remember nearly every budget to mid-range laptop being offered with DOS as a cost-saving measure