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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Bernie, AOC, Andrew Yang off the top of my head

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bernie is too old, didn't want to run. AOC was too young until less than a month before the general election, didn't want to run. Andrew Yang is actually kind of a weirdo in the bad take a look closer (check out the description of his Forward Party).

Anybody else?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you asked for who is better, but since you dont like any of them, they wont do. Rocket dragon is the decider of all things politicians guys.

You should have just said so in the first place and we coulda saved time.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I love Bernie and AOC both, but what's your plan, hold a gun to their head and force them to run?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Or Pelosi and co can just tell literally anyone "Hey, our polls have Biden at 5% chance, and Kamala couldn't even win her own state in the primary. Your policies poll better than anyone else in congress, if you don't run, Trump will win."

But it would have been easier just to tell Kamala "Hey, these are the policies that will give you the best turnout, free healthcare, free college, rent control/lower housing costs, tax cuts for the workers, increased taxes on billionaires." and tell Biden "Here's a stack of executive orders, they directly improve the conditions of the people we need to vote for us. The SCOTUS will complain, laugh at them. Also stop sending weapons to Israel you fucking monster"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People don't vote on policies. Do you think Trump won because everyone loved his concepts of a plan?

People vote on vibes. Right wingers vote on the vibes of how much they can own liberals and the left. Liberals vote to protect themselves from the right. Leftists vote... just kidding leftists don't vote, they let everyone know how pure and clean their hands are and how voting doesn't work anyway, and then wonder why they don't get representation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You only believe that because the democrats almost exclusively run on the most compromised versions of policies that 9/10 people assume won't help them. Look at social democracies, and how touching people's healthcare is so toxic even conservatives run on bolstering healthcare. Obama won by a huge margin in 2008 because people thought they'd get free healthcare. Then they got means-tested subsidies for health insurance through an employer they could buy on a marketplace.

Voters understand "You will go to a doctor and they will treat you and give you medicine for free, you won't have to pay $10,000 a year for health insurance, and then more when you actually need healthcare, and you won't have to fill out any complicated forms". And everybody knows someone who has been fucked by medical debt or forgone medical care because they couldn't afford it or put it off to another year because they didn't meet that year's deductible.

They understand "free child care" or "monthly check for $500 per child", but "tax credits based on eligibility" and most voters will assume it won't help them, but they will be paying for someone "undeserving".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I have to respectfully disagree, if you took all Obama's 2008 policies and replaced Obama with someone with none of Obama's stage presence, charisma, and skills as an orator, they would have lost.

I think you way overestimate how class conscious the US population is. Even the people with some class consciousness go picking the wrong fights anyway.