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[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

I consider myself hardcore pro European (Euro-patriotic if you will) but I think one of the reasons we're still standing is how decentralised this arrangement is. Poland seemed lost to propaganda but managed to bounce back. So could Slovakia or even Hungary. Infiltrating the EU is so much harder compared to a single, large nation because of that. It's also a pretty effective tool against imperialism in our own ranks. If you take a look at what other countries are doing it seems to me in comparison we've got a good thing going.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I agree, but there's definitely some more integration that can be done. An initially opt-in military organisation would be great because it doesn't really make sense for individual EU countries to do military alone. We should never fight with other countries in the block (and a military organisation would make that impossible), and it doesn't make sense that the EU wouldn't protect other member states.

I guess we might get that for free when we inherit NATO...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

and a military organisation would make that impossible

I agree that an EU military would be a great idea but let's say "less likely". We used to say the same about nato and yet here we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

If the EU organised a proper centralised and integrated army, how would one country attack another one within this alliance?

I guess at some intermediary stages it would look more like NATO does now, with individual armies that are not very tightly integrated with each other, but if it's being integrated into the EU I'm thinking more in terms of an EU central command. Similar to how it would be incredibly difficult for Sweden to declare war on Skåne.

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