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submitted 2 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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10 of the last 10 years were the hottest on record. It's time. I know so many people that will give lip service to the environment and then think nothing of taking multiple flights per year on the flimsiest of pretexts.

And as all too often happens, people go to poorer countries where they get waited on hand and foot, and then act like they're doing some giant favor to the locals. All too often these tourist sights end up being an unmitigated natural disaster, not to mention locking the locals out of their own back yard.

And then they'll turn around and claim they're "helping the local economy" trying to justify it. It's colonialism by another name. If they paid fair wages to the workers these vacations would become much more expensive, perhaps prohibitively so.

And wtf is wrong with you, you can't relax in your own region? Gonna cook the planet because you can't be happy and relax in your own hemisphere. Y'all need to chill it with the air travel!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Interesting idea....

tl;dr it's probably more like 1-6 years of burgers.

This says

That’s a total of 3.6-6.1 kg of CO2-equivalent per burger.

This says New York to London:

is equivalent to 587 kg CO2e

So round trip would be 1174kg.

1174/6.1 = 192

1174/3.6 = 326

So you need to not eat 192 - 326 burgers.

The first source says Americans eat 1-3 burgers a week, so you might need to skip 2-6 years of burgers to equal the same pollution as your air travel.

New York to Florida would be 1-3 years, roughly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

You're multiplying the amount of CO2 dramatically. That is the amount of CO2 for the entire plane, not calculated per passenger. Emissions are always calculated per passenger for different methods of transportation, otherwise you're multiplying the output by potentially hundreds.

Edit: I think I'm wrong. I'm getting different results saying those numbers are actually closer to the per passenger number. I'd have to do the math but it's definitely more than a burger by a long shot, just from a logical calorie conversion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Thanks for double checking the math. The source I got the air travel emissions from says:

All calculations are for the carbon emissions per passenger on the flight (one-way).

These numbers jive with what I have seen elsewhere but I didn't check my sources too closely.