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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

No stupid questions time: This kind of lurks in the back of my mind and I sometimes find myself hesitating to use the term "female" to refer to female figures in any context. I don't have to do that, right? Like, would "woman lawyer" be better than "female lawyer" in contexts where specifying gender might be relevant? I would conversely prefer the term "male lawyer" in the same context and "man lawyer" sounds just as odd to me as "woman lawyer". "Lawyer who is a woman" is a little verbose, too. Am I overthinking this?

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry but “woman” is not an adjective and its use that way is grating. You wouldn’t say “man teacher” and it sounds wrong. So does “woman lawyer” or “woman voter.”

The neckbeard/incel thing is using “female” when “woman” would be acceptable and more common, like “look at these females” or something. It doesn’t mean we have to abolish the word “female” entirely from the lexicon.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that seems to align nicely with the instincts I outlined in my comment. No need to apologize. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My personal rule is female adjective is okay, female noun is not.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From what I googled, it's especially bad when you pair "man" and "female" together, which makes sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just don't use male or female as nouns to refer to humans. That simple. If you're talking about animals it doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

If you’re talking about animals it doesn’t matter.

Not even that it doesn't matter, it's almost entirely the point. The reason why using 'females' as a noun to refer to women is dehumanizing is because it's a noun we use for animals.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Best be safe and call them "girl lawyer"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Yes you're over thinking this. A woman lawyer is just a lawyer. Same how a male lawyer is just a lawyer. Unless the gender of the person is important, leave it out of their job title. Use the word actor to describe both men and women who act. Flight attendant for men and women, or receptionist, or any other word. The vast majority of time you can leave their gender out of the description and it's fine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My personal take is to just use lawyer, when gender is irrelevant. This may get your audience confused when using "she" in the next sentence. But it could help weaken the stereotypes about genders if we did this more often IMHO.
If needed "female lawyer" or "lawyer who is a woman" are good otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I know, use the worst of all options, "lawyeress." /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When we're driving, my wife often acts as a navigatrix

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Waiter = Waitress
Lawyer = Lawyress

Lawyer femoid 😒
lawyeoid 😏

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I work in statistics and we never use girl of woman, only female. The line is vastly different in age and meaning depending on culture, religion, law, or heritage. Even in western societ, 13, 16, 18, and 21 are all valid before tipping to 40, 50, 60, 65, 68, and 70 where the term can be prefixed with some form of adjective.

It's old-fashioned. Just say female and every culture/society understands you without confusion or insult. Save you embarassing/insulting people while travelling too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They're just called lawyers, unless they're lawyering with their genitals and their sex is somehow relevant.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are obviously still contacts where the distinction is important.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Such as discussing discrimination, statistics, etc

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe from an equity perspective, but not from a lawyer perspective. So you'd probably say "we need more women in law".

Because the topic is women. If the topic was lawyering, then sex won't come up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Immediate scenario that came to mind here is

The client demanded any other public defender, as long as they weren’t black or female.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

"70% of lawyers suffer discrimination in the workplace but only 30% of lawyers face discrimination."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"single female lawyer fighting for justice and also being single,"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a deep reference. Very nice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

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