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I don't know how extended this is, but apparently there are car makers selling cars with no keys. Instead you download a proprietary app and use it to access your car.

I like being practical and talking to a car to turn the volume up or down, to open the door or to turn the temperature higher are things I don't need nor want. Give me mechanical levers, reachable stalks and no proprietary bloatware. I don't need a movie theater on wheels.

Imagine an early 2000s car running on an electric motor. That's what I want.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

has a real physical key that has to be in the cabin to drive

๐Ÿคจ the way you say "has to be in the cabin" makes me think it's not a real physical key, and is actually a wireless smart key that you leave in your pocket when starting the car.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's got a metal key inside the housing that unlocks the doors and the fob sensor is actually inside the armrest so if the battery is dead you place the fob inside a pocket in the armrest and it authenticates your fob with NFC and you drive away. Closest I've seen in a modern car anywhere.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well at least the physical key works for the doors. What year is that?

Yeah, I wish there was a company that made a fully dumb electric car, but there's just no incentive to do that. I have a 2014 gas car with a normal physical key that you use to turn start it, but I don't think I've ever seen an electric car where you have to use the physical key to start the car.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I wish there was a company that made a fully dumb electric car

Iโ€™ve been thinking this too. How hard is it to start a car company, I wonder?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Mines a 2017 but they didn't change this over time as far as I understand. GM had a bad problem with the key-in-ignition a few years ago and will likely never use them again.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

so if the battery is dead [...] and you drive away.

what do you mean?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

If the key fob battery is dead it still has a physical key that is removed from the key fob to unlock the doors and can still interface with the car via NFC to allow operation of the vehicle once inside (not op but I have a car with that going on so Iโ€™m making the assumption).